TYT vs. Jimmy Dore

[Outlaw]

Yeah, there aren't enough media criticizing Trump. lol
His stance is Trump isn't the problem. The system is fundamentally broken, both parties have the same donors, are pro war and anti-M4A. Criticizing Trimp is like being mad at the bullet in you body instead of the person that shot you.

His notion is wrong. Centrist democrats did not create Trump. Racism did. His whole rise to political popularity was based on being racist towards Obama.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

His notion is wrong. Centrist democrats did not create Trump. Racism did. His whole rise to political popularity was based on being racist towards Obama.

He beat Hillary not Obama and 8 million people who voted for Obama voted for Trump. Seems they aren't basing their vote on race. And many, especially Black people just stayed home is that because of racism to? There is way more to it that just racism sir.

 

[Outlaw]

He beat Hillary not Obama and 8 million people who voted for Obama voted for Trump. Seems they aren't basing their vote on race. And many, especially Black people just stayed home is that because of racism to? There is way more to it that just racism sir.

Where did I say Trump beat Hillary because of racism? I said Trump grew to political popularity due to racism.

Hillary was just hated more than Trump

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Where did I say Trump beat Hillary because of racism? I said Trump grew to political popularity due to racism.

Hillary was just hated more than Trump

I'm saying how could racism be the # 1 factor when both candidates are white?
I think every election proves which candidate was more liked.

 

[Outlaw]

I'm saying how could racism be the # 1 factor when both candidates are white?
I think every election proves which candidate was more liked.

Breh I said Trump ROSE to political popularity due to racism. Did he not become more political when he became the face of birtherism? Did he not start out his campaign calling Mexicans criminals and racists?

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Breh I said Trump ROSE to political popularity due to racism. Did he not become more political when he became the face of birtherism? Did he not start out his campaign calling Mexicans criminals and racists?

OK, and I'm saying that's not why he won it was many factors.

 

[Outlaw]

OK, and I'm saying that's not why he won it was many factors.

So basically you’re trying to change my point? Regardless Trump didn’t even win the popular vote, he won due to apathy and a flaw in human psychology.

If a human spent eternity in heaven he would still be curious to know what it’d be like in hell.

Americans didn’t know how good we had it with competent leadership, some wanted a shakeup but now a majority of Americans want a return to normalcy

 

[AnonymityX1000]

So basically you’re trying to change my point? Regardless Trump didn’t even win the popular vote, he won due to apathy and a flaw in human psychology.

If a human spent eternity in heaven he would still be curious to know what it’d be like in hell.

Americans didn’t know how good we had it with competent leadership, some wanted a shakeup but now a majority of Americans want a return to normalcy

I was talking about why he won, you changed it to how he rose to popularity. Look back.
If you mean Hillary was apathetic to midwest voters and campaigning in general and took for granted she would win and didn't really work for it like she needed to as a flaw in human psychology I agree. lol
Have you asked yourself or investigated why they wanted a 'shakeup'?
And no, half the country doesn't vote. And the half that does is split amonst the two parties. So no 'a majority' don't want a return to normalcy. Most are very apathetic and don't believe in the power of electoral politics.

 

[Outlaw]

I was talking about why he won, you changed it to how he rose to popularity. Look back.
If you mean Hillary was apathetic to midwest voters and campaigning in general and took for granted she would win and didn't really work for it like she needed to as a flaw in human psychology I agree. lol
Have you asked yourself or investigated why they wanted a 'shakeup'?
And no, half the country doesn't vote. And the half that does is split amonst the two parties. So no 'a majority' don't want a return to normalcy. Most are very apathetic and don't believe in the power of electoral politics.

Whole bunch of juelzing here but facts speak for themselves.

if a majority of voters didn’t want a return of normalcy then Biden wouldn’t have demolished extreme “change” candidates and wouldn’t be demolishing Trump in the polls right now

People did not know how good they had it under Obama and now they want Obama’s VP to restore that feeling

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Whole bunch of juelzing here but facts speak for themselves.

if a majority of voters didn’t want a return of normalcy then Biden wouldn’t have demolished extreme “change” candidates and wouldn’t be demolishing Trump in the polls right now

People did not know how good they had it under Obama and now they want Obama’s VP to restore that feeling

You ignored half the country doesn't vote and could care less so, no it's not a majority. Who's really juelzing. lol

 

[Outlaw]

You ignored half the country doesn't vote and could care less so, no it's not a majority. Who's really juelzing. lol

Just because they don’t vote doesn’t mean the system is broken. If anything it is an indicator that our education system needs to be improved

I would argue it’s more ignorance than apathy

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Just because they don’t vote doesn’t mean the system is broken. If anything it is an indicator that our education system needs to be improved

I would argue it’s more ignorance than apathy

I disagree, I used to think that but if upon closer examination most non voters just don't have a high tolerance for bullshyt. Look at our only two choices for president this and the last cycle. It's really the lesser of two evils, it's not motivating to participate in at all. Obama at least offered competency and an inoffensive even eloquent demeanor. Hillary/Trump and Biden/Trump is really the lowest bar possible.

 

[Outlaw]

I disagree, I used to think that but if upon closer examination most non voters just don't have a high tolerance for bullshyt. Look at our only two choices for president this and the last cycle. It's really the lesser of two evils, it's not motivating to participate in at all. Obama at least offered competency and an inoffensive even eloquent demeanor. Hillary/Trump and Biden/Trump is really the lowest bar possible.

if they were informed they’d vote in the primaries. You can’t wait until the general and complain about the candidates.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

if they were informed they’d vote in the primaries. You can’t wait until the general and complain about the candidates.

They are informed they just don't care. And they aren't complaining they are generally disengaged from the process.

 

[Outlaw]

They are informed they just don't care. And they aren't complaining they are generally disengaged from the process.

What are your sources that this is true?