TYT vs. Jimmy Dore

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I don't agree with Sam's or Jimmy's take. Cuomo is trash but a zero sum game where nothing is good enough is naive.

AOC is politician though and is playing the game she feels is necessary. She didn't need to endorse now but endorsing later would not matter either.

I think in Jimmy's video he also showed where Cuomo ran her and the progressive movement down. So there's a bit of context missing on Sam's part.
 

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I don't agree with Sam's or Jimmy's take. Cuomo is trash but a zero sum game where nothing is good enough is naive.

AOC is politician though and is playing the game she feels is necessary. She didn't need to endorse now but endorsing later would not matter either.

I think in Jimmy's video he also showed where Cuomo ran her and the progressive movement down. So there's a bit of context missing on Sam's part.
why does when she endorses matter to you tho?
 

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why does when she endorses matter to you tho?
It doesn't, eventually she would have to because that's what's done in a general election within a party. I guess Jimmy's issue is she got nothing for it even though between now and the vote there's not much to gain so the timing didn't matter.
 

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I don't agree with Sam's or Jimmy's take. Cuomo is trash but a zero sum game where nothing is good enough is naive.

AOC is politician though and is playing the game she feels is necessary. She didn't need to endorse now but endorsing later would not matter either.

I think in Jimmy's video he also showed where Cuomo ran her and the progressive movement down. So there's a bit of context missing on Sam's part.

Nothing is good enough...

This is the problem with liberals...

Center-Leftists and the "reformers" think that politics is about concessions and compromising and getting along and hearing the other side...

And they've been doing that since the 60s and now they are all the way to the right...

Right Wingers and Left-Wingers actually understand the goal of politics...

Which is to divvy up resources, whether it is human capital, whether it is actual capital, whether it is social capital...

Who gets to control what...that's all it is about...

And Right-Wingers are not as dignified and full of shyt...like Center-Leftists, to sit here and play political games...

They don't concede to shyt...if they don't like something, they say shove it up your ass...

That's why Bill Clinton's bytch ass fukked shyt up, that's why Obama's bytch ass fukked it up... all these moderates and damn near Republicans..

Right-Wingers aren't about having conversations and dialogue...that's bullshyt center-left, moderate shyt...you get no brownie points for that shyt, it's about winning

Real Left-Wingers care about winning...with actual left-wing policy...because Right-Wingers don't care about policy that ain't Right-Wing...

They will set the country on fire...and blame fukking Jews and Communists and Cultural Marxists and Liberals and Millennials and whatever the fukk...and their numbers will grow...

Meanwhile real leftists will say "I told you so..." While the moderates berate leftists for not being "reasonable"

and...the moderates, the center-leftists will still be talking about compromising with motherfukkers that live in a totally different reality...

If someone is an actual Leftists and not one of these Obama/Bill Clinton fukking liberals that concede to right-wingers and their bullshyt...then don't fukking embrace the moderates when they ran shyt on the "Left" for almost 30 years and let a fukking Reality TV show star beat them in an election...and have us in a position where we live in the biggest economic inequality in human history...

They are fukking losers and they will destroy any gains in society with their right-wing ass kissing...
 
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Nothing is good enough...

This is the problem with liberals...

Center-Leftists and the "reformers" think that politics is about concessions and compromising and getting along and hearing the other side...

And they've been doing that since the 60s and now they are all the way to the right...

Right Wingers and Left-Wingers actually understand the goal of politics...

Which is to divvy up resources, whether it is human capital, whether it is actual capital, whether it is social capital...

Who gets to control what...that's all it is about...

And Right-Wingers are not as dignified and full of shyt...like Center-Leftists, to sit here and play political games...

They don't concede to shyt...if they don't like something, they say shove it up your ass...

That's why Bill Clinton's bytch ass fukked shyt up, that's why Obama's bytch ass fukked it up... all these moderates and damn near Republicans..

Right-Wingers aren't about having conversations and dialogue...that's bullshyt center-left, moderate shyt...you get no brownie points for that shyt, it's about winning

Real Left-Wingers care about winning...with actual left-wing policy...because Right-Wingers don't care about policy that ain't Right-Wing...

They will set the country on fire...and blame fukking Jews and Communists and Cultural Marxists and Liberals and Millennials and whatever the fukk...and their numbers will grow...

Meanwhile real leftists will say "I told you so..." While the moderates berate leftists for not being "reasonable"

and...the moderates, the center-leftists will still be talking about compromising with motherfukkers that live in a totally different reality...

If someone is an actual Leftists and not one of these Obama/Bill Clinton fukking liberals that concede to right-wingers and their bullshyt...then don't fukking embrace the moderates when they ran shyt on the "Left" for almost 30 years and let a fukking Reality TV show star beat them in an election...and have us in a position where we live in the biggest economic inequality in human history...

They are fukking losers and they will destroy any gains in society with their right-wing ass kissing...
People like jimmy dore are evil and vile they are truly as demonic as the right wing who blatantly supports white supremacy because they claim to be left while sabotaging all pragmatism progressive politics for purity bullshyt.This piece of shyt said trump appointing numerous white supremacist judges to the supreme court does not matter because how dare hillary not support medicare for all. The dude is a joke, he is a privileged white man that will gladly let minorities perish for his utopia that will not happen. His whole shtick is democrats are bad and anyone who has the audacity to potentially oppose that narcissistic ''trump voters are not racist'' bernie sanders is an enemy. The same moron wants the left to work with white supremacists and you have idiots on this site caping for him.
 

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It doesn't, eventually she would have to because that's what's done in a general election within a party. I guess Jimmy's issue is she got nothing for it even though between now and the vote there's not much to gain so the timing didn't matter.

What was she ever going to get out of it though? Nixon already pulled dude left on a handful of issues, now we hold him to those promises (and even praise him when he actually follows through on left leaning policy to encourage more of the same). I guess I just don't see any benefit to AOC withholding her endorsement especially in light of Cuomo winning her district. I don't see the strategy in withholding endorsement.
 

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Seems like the comments are generally supporting Jimmy. lol

Jimmy's got a big following...he's starting to feel like lefty Alex Jones. No wonder he was panicking about the deplatforming. I couldn't believe how many people in the replies saw nothing wrong with his behavior. Dude ain't even a useful idiot for progressive causes at this point.
 

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Jimmy's got a big following...he's starting to feel like lefty Alex Jones. No wonder he was panicking about the deplatforming. I couldn't believe how many people in the replies saw nothing wrong with his behavior. Dude ain't even a useful idiot for progressive causes at this point.
I mean besides being popular I don't see how he's like Alex Jones he doesn't no lie or promote conspiracy theories. And what did he do besides curse at a woman?
 

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I mean besides being popular I don't see how he's like Alex Jones he doesn't no lie or promote conspiracy theories. And what did he do besides curse at a woman?

He literally promoted the Seth Rich conspiracy on Joe Rogan's podcast fam. Anyone that disagrees with him in the slightest is a coward and a corporate shill according to him. So if you don't agree with his stance, you are part of a mass media conspiracy. There's no discussion, just screaming about how you're in on it.
 
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