Turning hoes into husbands?

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Lol well considering I want to graduate college and be financially stable before I get married then yeah, It's going to take 4-6 years. Maybe you should learn not everyone is the same age nor has the same lifestyle and want to actually accomplish things before they settle down.

No.

I'll repeat it again, and hopefully you'll comprehend it this time. If you need to be with someone for 4 years, before you can decide that you want to be with them for life, you've already lost.

Why would you invest 4 years in something you're undecided about.

You sound like you've never been in a seriously committed relationship before.
 

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It depends on where your at in life..... If they're in a relationship going to school than 4-6 isn't bad... but settled into adult life with a job/career.... 2 years max.

but she didn't say that, and i specifically worded my response according to her words.

If we're talking undergraduate, why would a male or female be in a committed relationship that's not serious for 4 years.

The prospect of a long term future is what will keep someone there for 4 years. How can you possibly get to year 4 and be undecided? Why would you even get to year 1.5 and still be undecided? Why are y'all in committed relationships with people you don't actually wanna be with long term? Most females between the age 16-25 will be with a man for 2 years with no commitment and do all the shyt that comes with a relationship. So why, on earth, would a man get in a RELATIONSHIP for 4 years, if she's undecided. That's not even hustling backwards. That's straight up not hustling.

Ain't no man committing mentally, emotionally and damn definitely not physically for a chick that's gonna take 4 years to realize if she still wants to continue or not. We out here acting like our 20s aren't non stop primetime action years.

Seriously. Seriously. Think about the ass getting opportunity awarded to a man at the age of 18, then 21, then 25, then 30. Ya'll seriously are gonna sit here, and tell me he's gonna forfeit that potential, for a woman that's UNDECIDED, FOR FOUR YEARS.

get all the way the fukk out of here :bryan:
 

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No.

I'll repeat it again, and hopefully you'll comprehend it this time. If you need to be with someone for 4 years, before you can decide that you want to be with them for life, you've already lost.

Why would you invest 4 years in something you're undecided about.

You sound like you've never been in a seriously committed relationship before.
You don't really know someone you're dating until about a year after you date. In four years you will have known someone long enough to observe how they deal with tragedy, loss, finances, relationships, lifestyle, personality, morals, values etc. these are things that don't just come up in conversation; they grow from being around a person for longer periods of time. After several years, the initial need to "impress" has decreased and the walls come down so that you can really see a person and find out who they are. I wouldn't advise anyone to marry before a year- not if you intend to stay with this person for a lifetime- because you're still in the infatuation stage (physically as well as romantically)and putting your best impression of yourself forward, as are they. Makes sense to me.
 

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No.

I'll repeat it again, and hopefully you'll comprehend it this time. If you need to be with someone for 4 years, before you can decide that you want to be with them for life, you've already lost.

Why would you invest 4 years in something you're undecided about.

You sound like you've never been in a seriously committed relationship before.
Why would I want to get married while I'm still in college or after I graduate but I'm still staying with my parents and don't have a stable job/income :comeon:. I never said it's takes 4-6 years to know someone, just at the point in my life, if someone came up talking about marriage I'd tell them I want to wait until I have all those things done.
 

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You don't really know someone you're dating until about a year after you date. In four years you will have known someone long enough to observe how they deal with tragedy, loss, finances, relationships, lifestyle, personality, morals, values etc. these are things that don't just come up in conversation; they grow from being around a person for longer periods of time. After several years, the initial need to "impress" has decreased and the walls come down so that you can really see a person and find out who they are. I wouldn't advise anyone to marry before a year- not if you intend to stay with this person for a lifetime- because you're still in the infatuation stage and putting your best impression of yourself forward, as are they. Makes sense to me.

What after several years? you're not making it several years. are you guys seriously extending relationships that you're not confident will last….just to see if it can work? is this really standard procedure in these streets?

Again, ya'll are adding qualifiers that were never existent in the original quote. If it takes you 4 years to decide, I'm confused as to why you think shyt will change after 5 years, or 6 years. Why use a timetable if it's life events that are the deciding factor?
 

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What after several years? you're not making it several years. are you guys seriously extending relationships that you're not confident will last….just to see if it can work? is this really standard procedure in these streets?

Again, ya'll are adding qualifiers that were never existent in the original quote. If it takes you 4 years to decide, I'm confused as to why you think shyt will change after 5 years, or 6 years. Why use a timetable if it's life events that are the deciding factor?
I only added 4-6 years because I'm still in college and live with my parents. Once I have a stable job/income and my own place, then I'll just go with the flow but say if I was with someone now, I'd tell them I want to wait until I have that done before I get married.
 

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Why would I want to get married while I'm still in college or after I graduate but I'm still staying with my parents and don't have a stable job/income :comeon:. I never said it's takes 4-6 years to know someone, just at the point in my life, if someone came up talking about marriage I'd tell them I want to wait until I have all those things done.

Don't think I'm coming at you. I'm simply displaying a flaw in the rationale you typed. Not because you believe it (because its now obvious you worded it wrong). But because someone had to call you out in order for you to articulate your point better.

There is nothing wrong with waiting or wanting to be well established. Many of us do it. And there's nothing wrong with not wanting to be married early. A lot of men aren't down for it at this age.

I'm simply saying, every year of your relationship is an investment toward a long term future. It your significant other didn't think it was worth it, they wouldn't commit to you. There is a difference between having a relationship with a girl and being in a committed relationship with a girl. As I already stated, most females 16-25 are in limbo ass relationships, doing everything for a guy. Most females will be a side chick and do everything for a guy. Guys know this. Guys understand this. So any male you're with, that commits to you (and doesn't cheat) is making a downpayment on the future for you.

So it's rather ridiculous to think, that after 4 years, you're going to snap to and decide you want to be with him long term. That's going to come as a result of the relationship period. You'll know well before 4 years that you want to marry him, cause you won't allow it to go 4 years if that wasn't the case. Marriage can wait. The ring, ceremony all that shyt can wait. But there is no way on God's green earth, that you'll allow yourself to date a guy you don't want to marry for 4 years.

If you do, I'll personally throw a rock at your head for disrespecting yourself. You can't get time and missed opportunities back.
 

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Don't think I'm coming at you. I'm simply displaying a flaw in the rationale you typed. Not because you believe it (because its now obvious you worded it wrong). But because someone had to call you out in order for you to articulate your point better.

There is nothing wrong with waiting or wanting to be well established. Many of us do it. And there's nothing wrong with not wanting to be married early. A lot of men aren't down for it at this age.

I'm simply saying, every year of your relationship is an investment toward a long term future. It your significant other didn't think it was worth it, they wouldn't commit to you. There is a difference between having a relationship with a girl and being in a committed relationship with a girl. As I already stated, most females 16-25 are in limbo ass relationships, doing everything for a guy. Most females will be a side chick and do everything for a guy. Guys know this. Guys understand this. So any male you're with, that commits to you (and doesn't cheat) is making a downpayment on the future for you.

So it's rather ridiculous to think, that after 4 years, you're going to snap to and decide you want to be with him long term. That's going to come as a result of the relationship period. You'll know well before 4 years that you want to marry him, cause you won't allow it to go 4 years if that wasn't the case. Marriage can wait. The ring, ceremony all that shyt can wait. But there is no way on God's green earth, that you'll allow yourself to date a guy you don't want to marry for 4 years.

If you do, I'll personally throw a rock at your head for disrespecting yourself. You can't get time and missed opportunities back.
I see what you saying but at 22, marriage is a huge deal especially while in college without my own shyt yet.
 

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What after several years? you're not making it several years. are you guys seriously extending relationships that you're not confident will last….just to see if it can work? is this really standard procedure in these streets?

Again, ya'll are adding qualifiers that were never existent in the original quote. If it takes you 4 years to decide, I'm confused as to why you think shyt will change after 5 years, or 6 years. Why use a timetable if it's life events that are the deciding factor?
You're interpreting this too literally. I merely said four years because that was referenced earlier. There is no timetable and it differs from couple to couple. No one is saying anything about being unsure or unconfident about a mate. Obviously if you are dating someone for four years, there is an emotional investment and commitment to this person and you are not into playing the game of stringing someone along and seeing if your love starts to fade. There's more to it than that. The gist of this is you don't want to rush into marriage. Mars has a practical, reasonable desire to wait until she's financially ready for marriage. All I'm saying is it's not a bad idea because you can learn more about a person and work through differences without the pressure of marriage.

Edited to add: I'm not saying after four years, you should decide; I'm saying four years is long enough TO decide. I think in a 4-6 year relationship, you can pretty much expect the couple to marry.
 
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Men that sleep with a lot of women aren't 'hoes'.

:childplease:

Anyway, no, women should not be trying to turn hoes into husbands. That is, if they were/are not promiscuous themselves. Male hoes usually have deep insecurity problems and are too selfish/self absorbed for anything serious. Usually, only his female counterpart (a female hoe) would be a good match.
 

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ill give you all my coli cash if you ever get married
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I'm sure some chunky, nerdy guy will wife me up. If Kim K and Amber Rose can get married, I can too :troll:
 
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