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Smackdown from Oct. 17th 2002:
Cole: Rikishi is about to DELETE! Mattitude.com
Taz: DELETE!
The levels
Cole: Rikishi is about to DELETE! Mattitude.com
Taz: DELETE!
The levels
Those 1st few years of Smackdown were 
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Better than most Raws imo.
.Better than most Raws imo.
Sunny and Cornette were both trying to recruit Rocky
They predicted back then that Rocky would be the biggest star in the business by the year 2000. I think Rocky was the only one they knew that would be the face of the company.
They predicted back then that Rocky would be the biggest star in the business by the year 2000. I think Rocky was the only one they knew that would be the face of the company.
Raw 8/6/01
Chris Jericho has a segment where he slut shames Stephanie to the point where he brings out people in Planet of the Apes costumes, because she's fukked so many dudes that she's on to apes. They come out to KAMALA'S THEME.
The segment ends with Jericho throwing a pie in her face.
The next segment is Jacqueline (the only woman of any color on the roster at the time) vs Stacy/Torrie, which goes about a minute and has IVORY come out and hit Jackie with a DDT to cost her the match.
Now, I'm pretty used to wrestling being racist as fukk, but I don't think I've ever seen a 10 minute combo on any show as so
as this. Having the apes come out to Kamala's theme might be the legit most disgusting thing I've seen in pro wrestling. All to build to a segment where the boss' daughter (who he himself called a slut in the previous show) is called a whore.
Even by 2001 standards the Jericho/Steph/Apes segment is 
as hell, let alone following that with the only woman of color getting screwed out of a match against two non wrestlers by a woman named IVORY of all things.
A segment later has Paul Heyman driving Terri to tears over a mop because she needs make up and surgery to compare, then Booker meeting with a movie director who tells him the role is for an 18th century aristocrat, and laughing at Book when he says he knows.
I don't think I've ever been more ashamed to be a cac watching a wrestling show, and I've seen years of 80s Memphis at a time.
Chris Jericho has a segment where he slut shames Stephanie to the point where he brings out people in Planet of the Apes costumes, because she's fukked so many dudes that she's on to apes. They come out to KAMALA'S THEME.
The segment ends with Jericho throwing a pie in her face.
The next segment is Jacqueline (the only woman of any color on the roster at the time) vs Stacy/Torrie, which goes about a minute and has IVORY come out and hit Jackie with a DDT to cost her the match.
Now, I'm pretty used to wrestling being racist as fukk, but I don't think I've ever seen a 10 minute combo on any show as so
as this. Having the apes come out to Kamala's theme might be the legit most disgusting thing I've seen in pro wrestling. All to build to a segment where the boss' daughter (who he himself called a slut in the previous show) is called a whore. Even by 2001 standards the Jericho/Steph/Apes segment is as hell, let alone following that with the only woman of color getting screwed out of a match against two non wrestlers by a woman named IVORY of all things.A segment later has Paul Heyman driving Terri to tears over a mop because she needs make up and surgery to compare, then Booker meeting with a movie director who tells him the role is for an 18th century aristocrat, and laughing at Book when he says he knows.
I don't think I've ever been more ashamed to be a cac watching a wrestling show, and I've seen years of 80s Memphis at a time.
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Riley Escobar
GOAT
Cibernetico and Pierroth were on Raw and Vince mentioned AAA.
closest thing we get now is "Inoki promotion in Japan."
They were in the 1997 Rumble as well along with Mil Mascaras and the Latin Lover.
James Dean
All Star
Reliving that Rumble-Mania 2013 stretch. What a weird time in hindsight. I wonder how long WWE was planning on a Cena/Rock rematch. I think the original plans were a one time deal but much like the Goldberg situation, where they took something and extended it, I think somewhere along the line they said lets do anther shot. You could tell by how they set the story up. Once in a lifetime but Cena wins Rumble and Rock wins title. So Fate brings them back together or whatever. (Also, Cena should have had a way more fukked up post Rock match/2012 than he did. Would have gave him more sympathy)
I think it would have been interesting to see Punk win the Rumble match vs Rock off the Sheild fukkery. Never have Vince involved and say he would strip him etc. Gives Punk heel momentum and bragging rights a little longer and gives Rock more sympathy from the fans that were not so keen on his title win. Have Rock win it at Elimination Chamber. Sure it would shorten his reign but it would have worked. Punk invokes his rematch clause. Cena/Punk battle it out for the final say on a RAW episode. That match goes to a Draw. Rock says fukk it and gives them both a shot, and boom triple thread where Cena goes over at Mania and the WWE history continues from there. Even have Rock eat the pin.
Not sure what they would have done for Taker though. We would lose the good Punk/Taker match with this scenario. You can’t do Brock/Taker and end the streak here since its planned for 30. And trips has his match with Brock anyway (which we could have done without tbh) Maybe they could have canned Mark vs Ryback and did Taker vs Ryback. ( I know shytty booking attempt), lose to Taker and turn heel on RAW next night still out of frustration. Mark Henry is my guy but they could sit him out this year. Idk. So many possibilities.
I think it would have been interesting to see Punk win the Rumble match vs Rock off the Sheild fukkery. Never have Vince involved and say he would strip him etc. Gives Punk heel momentum and bragging rights a little longer and gives Rock more sympathy from the fans that were not so keen on his title win. Have Rock win it at Elimination Chamber. Sure it would shorten his reign but it would have worked. Punk invokes his rematch clause. Cena/Punk battle it out for the final say on a RAW episode. That match goes to a Draw. Rock says fukk it and gives them both a shot, and boom triple thread where Cena goes over at Mania and the WWE history continues from there. Even have Rock eat the pin.
Not sure what they would have done for Taker though. We would lose the good Punk/Taker match with this scenario. You can’t do Brock/Taker and end the streak here since its planned for 30. And trips has his match with Brock anyway (which we could have done without tbh) Maybe they could have canned Mark vs Ryback and did Taker vs Ryback. ( I know shytty booking attempt), lose to Taker and turn heel on RAW next night still out of frustration. Mark Henry is my guy but they could sit him out this year. Idk. So many possibilities.
its obvious they had it planned at least by the night after mania 28. I believe Cena was originally told he was going to win the 1st mania match. Rock flexed his muscle and had that changed off the strength that he REALLY did not like Cena after the build up got going. the straw was probably cena calling out rock's promo notes. Cena has hinted at that match supposing to have gone a different way in interviews.
when Rock did his promo on the Raw after mania 28 saying he was gonna be wwe champion, you knew they had hashed out everything and the plan would be for him to eventually win the belt and give drop it to cena as payback.
also, supposedly during 2012 when ryback had got hot, Vince was going to have him beat punk, end his streak and win the belt. it was gonna be ryback vs rock but he didn't pull the trigger. I kind of think rock told him he'd prefer to win from punk. rock is a smart guy, punk had talked shyt about him since 2011 so getting to end his title reign and beat him clean was a little get back imo.
as far as rock losing to punk
yeah that wasn't happening.I remember thinking they had so many options for that 2013 run for rock. they could have switched up so much stuff to make it more entertaining. rock go heel. have the shield work for the rock. a bunch of different stuff.
I doubt cena would have agreed to a triple threat, or maybe vince didn't want it. cena because he wanted to get his one on one win back. vince because he didn't think the main event needed another person in it.
WWE should have done punk vs cena vs rock at mania with punk losing his reign without being pinned. You can use that to do rock vs punk at summerslamits obvious they had it planned at least by the night after mania 28. I believe Cena was originally told he was going to win the 1st mania match. Rock flexed his muscle and had that changed off the strength that he REALLY did not like Cena after the build up got going. the straw was probably cena calling out rock's promo notes. Cena has hinted at that match supposing to have gone a different way in interviews.
when Rock did his promo on the Raw after mania 28 saying he was gonna be wwe champion, you knew they had hashed out everything and the plan would be for him to eventually win the belt and give drop it to cena as payback.
also, supposedly during 2012 when ryback had got hot, Vince was going to have him beat punk, end his streak and win the belt. it was gonna be ryback vs rock but he didn't pull the trigger. I kind of think rock told him he'd prefer to win from punk. rock is a smart guy, punk had talked shyt about him since 2011 so getting to end his title reign and beat him clean was a little get back imo.
as far as rock losing to punk
I remember thinking they had so many options for that 2013 run for rock. they could have switched up so much stuff to make it more entertaining. rock go heel. have the shield work for the rock. a bunch of different stuff.
I doubt cena would have agreed to a triple threat, or maybe vince didn't want it. cena because he wanted to get his one on one win back. vince because he didn't think the main event needed another person in it.
Rock vs Ryback wouldn't have been a good match most likely. Punk made Rock look a lot better than Ryback would've.
I thought a triple trheat made more sense and I would've been a lot more excited for it. By the time Mania 29 came around Cena dn Rock had been feuding for over 2 years, and this was the 3rd Mania they built around them. The build to 28 was great, but by 29 it just wasn't that exciting. Punk would've freshened things up.
I thought a triple trheat made more sense and I would've been a lot more excited for it. By the time Mania 29 came around Cena dn Rock had been feuding for over 2 years, and this was the 3rd Mania they built around them. The build to 28 was great, but by 29 it just wasn't that exciting. Punk would've freshened things up.
That fukking singlet Marty Jannety use to wear after the Rockers was the worst thing i've ever seen even by 90's standards.
OmegaK2099
Gettin' It In
WWE bullying at its best, yeah it might have sucked but i wish wwe would upload some ecwwe episodes