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WWE cut out the entire Rock Concert from the 2003/03/24 Raw • /r/wwe_network

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I'm comfortable in saying that Andre/Hogan is better than Steamboat/Savage at WM 3
 

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Yall mofos missing out on that 1999 ECW shyt.. They were the best pound for pound Fed in the Country whenever it been pure wrestling, storylines and talent development in 1999 which was why WCW and WWF had to raid them constantly.



Even when Dudleyz, Taz, left for Cokeboy, ECW OGs Sandman and Raven returned in exchange and the fukkery never missed a beat:

The ECW originals having to put egos aside to take on the Impact Players and Rhyno

RVD delivering kick ass matches night in and night out defending the TV title


Balls and Axel were some insane sons of bytches
Those Tanaka/Awesome bouts :whew:

Rhyno was developing into a monster and getting his dikk sucked by Sunny to do jobs for Candito

Super Crazy/Tajiri:ohlawd:

Jerry Lynn becoming a player within a one year span

The Baldies and New Jack feud was insane with Angel stapling Jack in the eye and Jack looking for them cats all over the BX streets:ooh:

I miss that fukking fed. :pacspit: at the TNN faggits for making them cancel the shows
 

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1999 is the worst year of ECW, though. Or at least the year it went to shyt and the wheels fell off. Those TNN shows were terrible.
 

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Let me go into depth on this, having literally watched them both in the last day.

Savage/Steamboat has zero story in the match itself. Is the workrate higher? Of course. But Steamboat heads into the match as a furious and righteously angry babyface looking for revenge. All that goes out the window in about 3 minutes. Plus, he ends up winning after a clear visual loss, outsider interference, and a very terrible small package OUTTA NOWHERE. Steamboat works the arm, Savage works the throat. Neither play into the match at all. It's just meaningless work to fill for time. It's a match that is built like a roller coaster, with ratcheting up, going down the hill and up the loops at a fast speed, then going back to the slow build up the hill. But those slow points are completely meandering and clearly just stalling for time. The rapid fire pins are slow and sloppy, and the entire workrate oriented aspect of the match was blown out of the water by matches in NJ and CMLL for nearly a decade.

As a workrate match in 1987 WWF specifically, it absolutely is special. With any perspective of anything outside of WWF, it is not. It's not even the best WM match Macho had, and it is blown out of the water by the Steamboat/Flair matches, and I'm a dude that will shyt on Flair every chance I get. As is, it is a match full of high spots, but lacking any internal story, or external story within the context of the feud.

Then you have Andre/Hogan. Andre was nearly immobile, and only took 2 bumps in the entire match, but the match had a clear story, executed as best the two could possibly do at that point, and FELT like a much bigger and important match (because it was). It has an actual story, actual psychology, and it works for what they were trying to do. The entire story of the match is build around Hogan hurting his back in the first 30 seconds, being outmatched (even in the opinion of about half the face roster at the time), and relying on the power of the Hulkamaniacs. Earlier in the show, Hogan cut a promo where he stated that he was just facing the giant, but Andre was facing Hogan and the millions of Hulkamaniacs. And ultimately, it was the Hulkamaniacs that willed Hulk to beat Andre, and his win was treated as bigger than winning the title AND getting the 3 year trophy.

If you look at it strictly from a "who was physically more capable" aspect, of course Savage/Steamboat was better. If you look at it from a story, execution, and importance view point, Andre/Hogan is a better match. I'll stand by that forever.
 
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This parking lot brawl between Cena and Eddie has been :whew:. Angle/Brock Ironman match next :gladbron::gladbron:

I watched that parking lot brawl the other week... they went HARD out there. Christ. I feel like I missed Prime Eddie in the WWE... I've only realised what a star he was after I got the Network. Can't get enough now!
 
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