Dude embodied all the "best" qualities of the CARNY. He can barely say 2 words without making me laugh
TSC Evaluation #2: Scott Steiner
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Scott_Steiner
GENETIC FREAK
THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE
I'M ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME GOATS AN EVERYBODY KNOOOOOWS BIG POPPA PUMP IS LIKE GEORGE WASHINGTON CUZ HE CANT TELL A LIE, AN INSTEAD OF CHOPPIN DOWN CHERRY TREES HE DESTROYS p*ssy LIKE A CHINESE RESTERANT
HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME
I'M ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME GOATS AN EVERYBODY KNOOOOOWS BIG POPPA PUMP IS LIKE GEORGE WASHINGTON CUZ HE CANT TELL A LIE, AN INSTEAD OF CHOPPIN DOWN CHERRY TREES HE DESTROYS p*ssy LIKE A CHINESE RESTERANT
HOLLA IF YA HEAR ME
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The Steiners only help the wcw tag titles once?
That's gotta be wrong, n
Anyways, I'd said 8 or 9. Gotta knock a point or two off for how much he fell off at the end, but he was legitimately in the conversation for being the best at all things at one time or another
That's gotta be wrong, nAnyways, I'd said 8 or 9. Gotta knock a point or two off for how much he fell off at the end, but he was legitimately in the conversation for being the best at all things at one time or another
The Steiners only help the wcw tag titles once?
Anyways, I'd said 8 or 9. Gotta knock a point or two off for how much he fell off at the end, but he was legitimately in the conversation for being the best at all things at one time or another
That was for the NWA/WCW United States Tag Team Championship.
They were 6x World Tag Team Champions in WCW.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Both incarnations of him get a solid ten.
Even on a bum wheel if healthy enough on a bum wheel he had four star matches with booker.
Wwe bias is what hurts his run and nod to his ringwork as poppa pump and to this day.
There has been no power vs power freetv match on par with him and goldberg.
Him and Ricky Morton are probably the two best tag grapplers.
who could be spoken of as the goat from a tag perspective.
To the point scottie was more beloved than rick after the enfamous rick gets sonned and finally man's up angle in uwf.
When, it would sound crazy when the angle was going on for rick to have an actual brother who was better.
Then, lo and behold out comes his brother years later from behind the curtain who was light years better and also light years better than everyone.
Other than the juicer I don't think I ever saw anyone be as good as scott steiner in a domestic context as far as workrate in a wrasslin ring as being jus to good and better than everyone, and I mean everyone. That is how good scott steiner was.
To the point kids woke up to see the Frankensteiner and then not only that but it evolved to a super Frankensteiner.
To every crazy innovative move you ever saw in your life on domestic tv.
Yet scottie could also be spoken of in goat convo before having to switch up as well.
Truly one of the all time shining stars and probably a whole gen of wrasslin viewers favorite wrassler with the likes of anyone from sting to hogan as a babyface.
Just the fact we never got to see him have the nwa title.
when he was in tags was a disservice to every fan who watched wrasslin.
Scott steiner never winning the nwa title is up there with the loss of magnum ta.
Plus, never seeing magnum get the nwa title.
Art Barr
Even on a bum wheel if healthy enough on a bum wheel he had four star matches with booker.
Wwe bias is what hurts his run and nod to his ringwork as poppa pump and to this day.
There has been no power vs power freetv match on par with him and goldberg.
Him and Ricky Morton are probably the two best tag grapplers.
who could be spoken of as the goat from a tag perspective.
To the point scottie was more beloved than rick after the enfamous rick gets sonned and finally man's up angle in uwf.
When, it would sound crazy when the angle was going on for rick to have an actual brother who was better.
Then, lo and behold out comes his brother years later from behind the curtain who was light years better and also light years better than everyone.
Other than the juicer I don't think I ever saw anyone be as good as scott steiner in a domestic context as far as workrate in a wrasslin ring as being jus to good and better than everyone, and I mean everyone. That is how good scott steiner was.
To the point kids woke up to see the Frankensteiner and then not only that but it evolved to a super Frankensteiner.
To every crazy innovative move you ever saw in your life on domestic tv.
Yet scottie could also be spoken of in goat convo before having to switch up as well.
Truly one of the all time shining stars and probably a whole gen of wrasslin viewers favorite wrassler with the likes of anyone from sting to hogan as a babyface.
Just the fact we never got to see him have the nwa title.
when he was in tags was a disservice to every fan who watched wrasslin.
Scott steiner never winning the nwa title is up there with the loss of magnum ta.
Plus, never seeing magnum get the nwa title.
Art Barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
The Steiners only help the wcw tag titles once?
Anyways, I'd said 8 or 9. Gotta knock a point or two off for how much he fell off at the end, but he was legitimately in the conversation for being the best at all things at one time or another
They always had the secondary title or were locked up in feuds with guys like the nasty boys who were never on their level.
Yet the workrate discrepancy is what made the matches in a style make fight sense.
Plus, the fact they were that good nobody else could fukk with them.
So, it created the issue that the road warriors had.
Which was once you put the main title on them and in that era....it started to be a where do we go from here situation.
It did not matter though, because they were so over and everyone knew they were the best that.
They just needed a strap and any strap they had became thee strap.
Plus, it was hard to book them against anyone else because they were so next level in just a domestic workrate sense.
They made anyone look second rate or a complete mismatch.
That included anyone and I mean anyone.
Which would hurt the convincability of the promotion.
Also, the fact anyone and everyone look second rate to scott steiner and why politically he was held back cause if you gave him the strap.
Nobody other than sting, luger and arm in all domestic wrasslin looked convincing opposite him. Which is a completely different convo.
Case in point just think if Vince would have not feared arn and Scott and put the world wwf title on arn and built a real heel champion not some bullshyt joke that most wwf heels were.
Jus think of the possibilities and even how it would have worked to even grt bret and later hbk over if it was built around the tag division and an and scottie spawning off into the world title.
Jus total missed oppurtunities.
So, they hated and held them in a hold position and just had them on the card and used politics.
When real talk,...steiner was the guy that should have made those dudes work harder.
Plus, they did not want to admit steiner was a possible answer to hogun in wwf as well.
When he really was and the nwa hurt themselves never putting the strap on him sting or luger at the right time.
They lived in fear of steiner and what they were not gonna be if he became what they feared.
When, steiner should have been used to leapfrog the wwf instead of living in fear of scott steiner.
In wwf steiner was feared because the steiners also had no brand loyalty.
So, he was also shackled with no wiggle room in tags and in singles.
To the point not many steiners free tv matches came on.
when they were on wwf like they would the nwa show.
Scott steiner past sting and luger is the epitome of the guy held back in the nwa.
All because the other guys are not as dedicated or as talented.
Plus, he was so good he would have moved wrasslin into a higher quality product that the industry feared as well. When it should have went that direction and did not out of fear and to this day wrasslin is crippled as a quality product because of that that as well.
Scott steiner was a revolting revolution that was kept from being total rebellion that would have made all of wrasslin much better.
Imo, he was horrible to guys because he did not respect being put in a box for some bums.
when he was the guy who was the revolution wrasslin needed.
So, even when I hear the stories i still understand kinda why.
As I been there with the guy who is the actual best and seen them be kept from what they should be and should be their destiny and Scott steiner definitely went though that.
To the point I even have been patterned over the years to suppress my markdom for the guy.
Yet outside the juicer, aj and db.
steiner is the best domestic grappler I ever saw in my whole entire life.
By physique, as scott to bpp.
he is the best American grappler I ever saw and I really wish he would have gotten what his skill said he should have really earned.
Yet as I have had to learn in life and in america,...it is a dirty unfair game and totally wrong.
that the best don't get what they worked for and could purposefully be denied that.
Art Barr
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PlayerNinety_Nine
Produced, Arranged, Composed and Performed by....
The shyt with Morgan after 5:00 is amazing.
"Why did I jump Matt Morgan?
Why does the sun rise? Why does the moon go down at night? 
"Classic material
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
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If you did rick steiner in uwf and nwa till scottie showed up.
that is a hell of a thread.
Scottie was that good he made his brother who was as just as an on screen character brilliant as George the animal steel meets jyd a complete after thought.
Guys here may not be old enough but rick steiner was a god as a heel enforcer to sonned bf.
One of the best angles of all time is his uwf mike rotunda angle.
Art Barr
I mainly wanted to focus on notable wrestlers. Rick Steiner wouldn't really qualify.
If you did rick steiner in uwf and nwa till scottie showed up.
that is a hell of a thread.
Scottie was that good he made his brother who was as just as an on screen character brilliant as George the animal steel meets jyd a complete after thought.
Guys here may not be old enough but rick steiner was a god as a heel enforcer to sonned bf.
One of the best angles of all time is his uwf mike rotunda angle.
Art Barr
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Scotty is a solid 8/10 for me. Would have been 10/10 if WCW had given him a face run with the world title in the early 90s.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
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In tna him and booker were tag team gods on the low.
If you peep those matches their ring generalship was on another level.
Anyway, I enjoyed these links.
Art Barr
The shyt with Morgan after 5:00 is amazing.
"Why did I jump Matt Morgan?
Classic material
In tna him and booker were tag team gods on the low.
If you peep those matches their ring generalship was on another level.
Anyway, I enjoyed these links.
Art Barr
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i cant give him no lower than an 8.5
.5 point off for being fukking amazing in the ring in his prime but showing little type of personality but the steiners were massively over nonetheless. seriously if you're a younger cat who only knows scott steiner as big poppa pump, please go on youtube and watch his matches
1 point off for his ringwork going down as the injuries piled up as he got older to the point where he is a shell of himself physically even though gimmick wise he became gold but wasn't really a true draw. just like rey mysterio i dont like seeing scotty in the ring these days because he is at least 20 years past his physical prime.
ive said it before if only his prime wrestling ability and the "big poppa pump" gimmick crossed paths, even for a short period.
.5 point off for being fukking amazing in the ring in his prime but showing little type of personality but the steiners were massively over nonetheless. seriously if you're a younger cat who only knows scott steiner as big poppa pump, please go on youtube and watch his matches
1 point off for his ringwork going down as the injuries piled up as he got older to the point where he is a shell of himself physically even though gimmick wise he became gold but wasn't really a true draw. just like rey mysterio i dont like seeing scotty in the ring these days because he is at least 20 years past his physical prime.
ive said it before if only his prime wrestling ability and the "big poppa pump" gimmick crossed paths, even for a short period.
I mainly wanted to focus on notable wrestlers. Rick Steiner wouldn't really qualify.
Rick was just as dope in the ring..just wasn't as super agile as Scott...his fall off from his physical prime also wasn't as drastic as Scott's..I mean shyt Rick had the better personality/gimmick between the two at one time.
the artist known az
Hail the victors
He essentially had 2 careers which isn't easy to do. His tag team career he was out shined personality wise by Rick but his athleticism and wrestling ability was top notched so he was able to get shine as well. In his later days his personality out shined his ring work. I gave him a 9 for being relevant for all these years
richaveli83
Veteran
7/10. I would rate him a 8 if he had the same skills in the 90's that he did in his late WCW run. I stopped watching wrestling regularly in 2002 so I missed his WWE 2000's run so I can only go by what I remember from the 90's to 2001.
anyone have any favorite Steiner matches? off the top of my head the Luger/Sting vs Steiner Bros @ Super Brawl comes to mind. I'm sure he might have had a couple good singles matches in the early 90s