TSC Evaluation #12: Vader

[daboywonder2002]

Had to keep it real. I wasn't gonna give him a high grade just cause I'm supposed to. As a kid during the Attitude era, he was trash to me.

Maybe if I had seen more of his non-WWE work I'd hold him in higher regard

erase his wwe work from your memory. they didn't use him right. Wcw and his japan work are all you need.

 

[patscorpio]

Had to keep it real. I wasn't gonna give him a high grade just cause I'm supposed to. As a kid during the Attitude era, he was trash to me.

Maybe if I had seen more of his non-WWE work I'd hold him in higher regard

i dont say this about a lot of wrestlers..everyone has their preference but please revisit vader's work pre wwe

 

[patscorpio]

few knew how to destroy a jobber better than vader..the infamous joe thurman incident

 

[patscorpio]

prolly the only el gigante/giant gonzalez singles match i ever thought was watchable to a degree was against vader..wcw/new japan supershow on ppv

 

[patscorpio]

Vader protecting the business

 

[Ill Lou Malnati]

-Mic work/promos: 5. He character wasn't really built to do promos, which is good, because Vader wasn't anything more than average at doing them. Typical '80s-style "yelling" promos.

-Personality/gimmicks: 10. The ultimate monster heel. Amazing presence and was intimidating as hell.

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds): 8. I haven't seen much from his career in Japan. Based off his career in the U.S., his best feuds were with Sting, Flair, and Cactus Jack.

Some of my favorite matches are Sting/Great American Bash '92, HBK/Summerslam '96, Dustin Rhodes/Clash of the Champions XXIX '94

-Overall rating (which doesn't have to be an average of the above scores): 9

 

[Nintendough]

Goat fat wrestler. Legit scary as a heel in wcw. 9. Cant be duplicated.

 

[YvrzTrvly]

Had to keep it real. I wasn't gonna give him a high grade just cause I'm supposed to. As a kid during the Attitude era, he was trash to me.

Maybe if I had seen more of his non-WWE work I'd hold him in higher regard

Yea just because kobe sucked st the end of his career doesnt diminish the fact that he is ATG

 

[R=G]

Ban Bam is the greatest big man worker but Vader is right under him and his heel WCW run was great. The hilarious 93 storyline for Starrcade with him and Flair...lol

 

[Psychosis]

erase his wwe work from your memory. they didn't use him right. Wcw and his japan work are all you need.

Vader in Japan was on another level. The smoking mask was piff. I had the clip of the SSP attempt he tried on Hogan, but it got deleted. He didnt get all of it tho, but the attempt

Rumor was the Yakuza sliced him up with razor blade cuts. And he couldnt go back.

 

[Hey_zeus]

9.
GOAT monster heel. Legend on 3 continents. Just look at how every fighting game in the 90s had a Vader clone.

 

[TheAlbionist]

Ban Bam is the greatest big man worker but Vader is right under him and his heel WCW run was great. The hilarious 93 storyline for Starrcade with him and Flair...lol

Yep, Bam Bam is the only person I can think of to put above Vader.

Did they ever run angles against each other? Not seen them if they did.

 

[patscorpio]

Yep, Bam Bam is the only person I can think of to put above Vader.

Did they ever run angles against each other? Not seen them if they did.

Not In America. ..they were tag Champs in new Japan and had some matches against each other

 

[TheAlbionist]

Not In America. ..they were tag Champs in new Japan and had some matches against each other

Sweet, I'll have to dig some of that out.

 

[Buggsy Mogues]

-Mic work/promos - 2
Can't remember any great promos from him, he was serviceable for a big man who just screamed random shyt, but that's about it.

-Personality/gimmicks - 6
Never really had a gimmick, but had a great persona as a big badass monster.

-Ring work (along with some of your favorite matches/feuds) - 8
One of the GOAT big man workers.

-Overall: 7

A legend, one of the GOAT big men ever. Never became quite as big of a star as he probably should have been though.