"Trump won't actually end democracy" I dont think enough people realize trump wanted to be fascist in his first term

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“We applaud General Kelly for highlighting in stark details the danger of a second Trump term. Like General Kelly, we did not take the decision to come forward lightly,” the letter said. “We are all lifelong Republicans who served our country. However, there are moments in history where it becomes necessary to put country over party. This is one of those moments.”

In his interview with the Times, released Tuesday, Kelly also said he observed Trump on multiple occasions praising Adolf Hitler. His comments came on the same day the Atlantic reported that Trump said he wished he had generals like Hitler.'

The idea that a second trump term wouldn't actually be that bad is pretty wild. I can understand why people think it, but they fail to realize that the only reason his first term wasnt full on fascist is because the people he ordered to make it so said NO

- Trump's generals
- Trump's admin
- Pence

they all sided with their conscience/America as a nation.


Jan 6 was Trump trying to fight against that, along with the election lie, and now with Project 2025 he wants yes men

Trump was gonna be fascist in his first term. Now he's got the roadblocks removed AND the supreme court saying presidents can do anything as "official acts"

if he wins its over
 

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ask yourself how we got to this point.

in 2001 George Bush said “The face of terrorism not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace."

and that's a republican, conservative president.

in 2024 Trump openly calls for generals like Hitler had and tried to ban Muslims in his first term.

in 2004 John Kerry and George Bush were arguing for who would ban assault rifles first.

again, a republican conservative and liberal democrat.

in 2024 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz brag about having firearms that they do and will use
 

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His own staffers thought the same back in 2018

Opinion | I Am Part of the Resistance Inside the Trump Administration (Published 2018)

Hopefully it's not paywalled but if it is I can post the whole article (yeah I actually have a subscription to this shyt rag)


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The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.

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I work for the president but like-minded colleagues and I have vowed to thwart parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

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[On Oct. 28, 2020, Miles Taylor, who left his position as chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security, made public his authorship of this article. While The Times has a strict policy of protecting its sources, in this case he personally waived our agreement to keep his identity confidential. We can confirm that he is the author.]

The Times is taking the rare step of publishing an anonymous Op-Ed essay. We have done so at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here. [Update: Our answers to some of those questions are published here.]

President Trump is facing a test to his presidency unlike any faced by a modern American leader.

It’s not just that the special counsel looms large. Or that the country is bitterly divided over Mr. Trump’s leadership. Or even that his party might well lose the House to an opposition hellbent on his downfall.

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[The author of this Op-Ed will publish a book in November 2019 titled “A Warning.”]

The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.

To be clear, ours is not the popular “resistance” of the left. We want the administration to succeed and think that many of its policies have already made America safer and more prosperous.

But we believe our first duty is to this country, and the president continues to act in a manner that is detrimental to the health of our republic.

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That is why many Trump appointees have vowed to do what we can to preserve our democratic institutions while thwarting Mr. Trump’s more misguided impulses until he is out of office.

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The root of the problem is the president’s amorality. Anyone who works with him knows he is not moored to any discernible first principles that guide his decision making.

Although he was elected as a Republican, the president shows little affinity for ideals long espoused by conservatives: free minds, free markets and free people. At best, he has invoked these ideals in scripted settings. At worst, he has attacked them outright.

In addition to his mass-marketing of the notion that the press is the “enemy of the people,” President Trump’s impulses are generally anti-trade and anti-democratic.

Don’t get me wrong. There are bright spots that the near-ceaseless negative coverage of the administration fails to capture: effective deregulation, historic tax reform, a more robust military and more.


But these successes have come despite — not because of — the president’s leadership style, which is impetuous, adversarial, petty and ineffective.

From the White House to executive branch departments and agencies, senior officials will privately admit their daily disbelief at the commander in chief’s comments and actions. Most are working to insulate their operations from his whims.

Meetings with him veer off topic and off the rails, he engages in repetitive rants, and his impulsiveness results in half-baked, ill-informed and occasionally reckless decisions that have to be walked back.

“There is literally no telling whether he might change his mind from one minute to the next,” a top official complained to me recently, exasperated by an Oval Office meeting at which the president flip-flopped on a major policy decision he’d made only a week earlier
 

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The erratic behavior would be more concerning if it weren’t for unsung heroes in and around the White House. Some of his aides have been cast as villains by the media. But in private, they have gone to great lengths to keep bad decisions contained to the West Wing, though they are clearly not always successful.
It may be cold comfort in this chaotic era, but Americans should know that there are adults in the room. We fully recognize what is happening. And we are trying to do what’s right even when Donald Trump won’t.
The result is a two-track presidency.
Take foreign policy: In public and in private, President Trump shows a preference for autocrats and dictators, such as President Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea’s leader, Kim Jong-un, and displays little genuine appreciation for the ties that bind us to allied, like-minded nations.

Astute observers have noted, though, that the rest of the administration is operating on another track, one where countries like Russia are called out for meddling and punished accordingly, and where allies around the world are engaged as peers rather than ridiculed as rivals.

On Russia, for instance, the president was reluctant to expel so many of Mr. Putin’s spies as punishment for the poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain. He complained for weeks about senior staff members letting him get boxed into further confrontation with Russia, and he expressed frustration that the United States continued to impose sanctions on the country for its malign behavior. But his national security team knew better — such actions had to be taken, to hold Moscow accountable.

This isn’t the work of the so-called deep state. It’s the work of the steady state.

Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

The bigger concern is not what Mr. Trump has done to the presidency but rather what we as a nation have allowed him to do to us. We have sunk low with him and allowed our discourse to be stripped of civility.

We may no longer have Senator McCain. But we will always have his example — a lodestar for restoring honor to public life and our national dialogue. Mr. Trump may fear such honorable men, but we should revere them.

There is a quiet resistance within the administration of people choosing to put country first. But the real difference will be made by everyday citizens rising above politics, reaching across the aisle and resolving to shed the labels in favor of a single one: Americans.


[On Oct. 28, 2020, Miles Taylor, who left his position as chief of staff in the Department of Homeland Security, made public his authorship of this article. While The Times has a strict policy of protecting its sources, in this case he personally waived our agreement to keep his identity confidential. We can confirm that he is the author.]
 

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Okay but why let him get in the position to run for office again

That’s the one thing I’m not hearing about from these politicians , they had him but let it go
the same politicians pushed out bernie in 2016 for hilary. they bushed biden after he had a bad debate.

they shat on trump and then kissed his ring and fell in line when he won

most of them are bought by and pledge allegiance to a foreign country

there is a disgusting rot in DC. these fakkits literally do not care about us.
 

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ask yourself how we got to this point.

in 2001 George Bush said “The face of terrorism not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace."

and that's a republican, conservative president.

in 2024 Trump openly calls for generals like Hitler had and tried to ban Muslims in his first term.

in 2004 John Kerry and George Bush were arguing for who would ban assault rifles first.

again, a republican conservative and liberal democrat.

in 2024 Kamala Harris and Tim Walz brag about having firearms that they do and will use
Seems the country has done nothing but go further to the right thanks to MAGA.
 

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Y’all gonna answer this?

Like I said in another thread if Trump is this universal threat to society and the Black vote is NEEDED to ensure Kamala gets into office to keep Trump out then how isn't this the best damn time to DEMAND tangibles with a subsequent plan of action? Trump is this universal threat and the Black Vote is needed which surely means there cannot be any chance of hearing any words other than "yes we will" to any proposed demands. As the fate of American society is on the line right? Or is it all bullshyt? :unimpressed:

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