Trump removes Federal Government diversity/sensitivity trainings on white privilege & racist history

[Everythingg]

What do you suggest then? Instead of talking down, enlighten. Everybody ain't looking for a savior. Equality, no racism, no discrimination, a fair shot and equal justice is not looking for a savior.

Suggest about what? Like I said, 19 black families just bought almost 100 acres in Georgia. They could be on the voting tip, but they didnt come together and say "lets vote". They came together and came up with some type of solution THEY THEMSELVES could do without relying on someone else. Something the vote or die crowd never touch on..

Equality or sovereignty?

Your fight is for equality in a inherently racist system? I dont get it bruh

 

[TallMan_J]

I'm the type to start the revolution bro. My vote or loyalty ain't for sale. My integrity is never up for grabs. You should see that by now.

Okay. I understand that. But I can’t seem to understand why you all are constantly jumping on brothers because they don’t support the same old Cacs that you do. I can’t speak for the other brehs, but I despise Trump and I’d love to see him gone. On the contrary, I will not support someone that I also despise (Biden) to get him out. It’s like you guys are the DNC attack dogs and slave catchers, being sent to go and round up the runaways that don’t support them.

We may have the same goals and desires, but we only disagree on the process to reach those goals.

 

[TallMan_J]

Breh they make up most of the country, their vote might decide this election. All we had to do was protest peacefully and keep looters and anarchists from destroying property. By allowing destruction to take hold we allowed Trump to create a narrative that seems to be working for him. That white small business owner who was democrat might vote for Trump now after watching his store get looted. A lot of Asians were going to vote for Biden because of his Asian racism, but now they might vote for Trump after their stores got destroyed. Do you notice a pattern?

That is NOT our fault and we should not be blaming ourselves for anything related to that. The Liberal Progressive Cacs using Black Struggle to push their agendas AND Right-Wing Cacs going out pretending to be violent protesters are to blame for the VAST majority of the destruction and chaos.

The cities are NOT burning because of Black People. “All you nikkas had to do was behave yourselves. Now look at you.”


You’re not a cac, are you? You’re writing like a cac....


@Saltmoney you don’t think this is fishy?

 

[Saltmoney]

I been told yall this about a month ago but people called me "c00n". I told yall that Trump would win by appealing to racists. BLM protests just gave Trump bullets to work with. In my honest opinion, WE SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION FOR ALL THESE PROTESTS. His "l;aw and order" campaign seems to be working and a lot of Cacs gonna vote for him. Keep in mind that Cacs make up nearly 70 percent of Ameerica. Minorities only make up about 30% total.
Goofy nikkkas such as @I Really Mean It don't realize that by "burning this shyt to the ground" we only gave Trump and excuse to tell Cacs that they need him to maintain order.

I disagree, the protests happening at this time was and is a good thing. Next year nobody would care about no George Floyd. Next year we hopefully won't be under stay at home orders for months that forced people to see what was happening and in part contributed to the huge turnout at protests all around the world because people were also sick of being locked inside.

He 100% would've found other fodder to appeal to his base through fear of lawlessness. His law and order narrative could easily supported by the regular shooting happening every day all over the country. There is no perfect way to sway racists and women who vote for who their husbands vote for. Lots of people are just full of $hit and nothing could make them not vote for Trump or hold their vote.

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

That is NOT our fault and we should not be blaming ourselves for anything related to that. The Liberal Progressive Cacs using Black Struggle to push their agendas AND Right-Wing Cacs going out pretending to be violent protesters are to blame for the VAST majority of the destruction and chaos.

The cities are NOT burning because of Black People.

You’re coming off like a cac....

Not saying it's anyone's fault, I'm just telling you how it is my guy. Why didn't protesters put hands on these people trying to derail the BLM protests. You had people in TLR saying "destruction doesn't matter insurance witll pay for it". BLM should have put hands on the people trying to derail the movement. I'm black , I look at things from an objective point of view. If black matter was smart they would have made sure that no one could derail the movement.

You can apply the same scenario to anything in life. If you have roommates and someone steals from one of your roommates, it would be smart to put cameras in your room so that whoever stole won't blame it on you.

You always gotta be mindful of agents/people trying to derail. BLM was full of idiots in the sense that they just said "fuk it let's go protest" without thinking about what could go wrong and who could take advantage.

 

[TallMan_J]

Not saying it's anyone's fault, I'm just telling you how it is my guy. Why didn't protesters put hands on these people trying to derail the BLM protests. You had people in TLR saying "destruction doesn't matter insurance witll pay for it". BLM should have put hands on the people trying to derail the movement. I'm black , I look at things from an objective point of view. If black matter was smart they would have made sure that no one could derail the movement.

You can apply the same scenario to anything in life. If you have roommates and someone steals from one of your roommates, it would be smart to put cameras in your room so that whoever stole won't blame it on you.

Yeah...I get your point.

 

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Is this some sort of master plan that you’ve created? I’m not being condescending. Serious and genuine question.

So what is your strategy? We get Biden in and then what? How are you going to motivate him AND the legislative branch to accomplish things beneficial for the Black Community specifically?

I voted for Obama twice, and people swore up and down that he was going to “do right by” and “help” us. He sure did a lot for LGBT and immigrants. Will Biden be any different? When Trump is gone, then what?

Two people are fighting you. One has a knife and one only has fists. You are a trained fighter.

What do you do?

ANSWER: you deal with the Clear and Present Danger first. Then you stop the one who represents the less pressing immediate threat.

It ain't about you though is it? It's about a large group saying what they mean and doing what they say.

It is self-defeating to vote against Trump this time out and then to forget about the bigger picture.

The entire political structure has to change.

Maybe the progressive posse has something to say? Maybe you need to get grassroots action going - especially in the churches to get people to demand change for their votes.

Trump has already rolled back years of (superficial but partially effective) progress. The courts have already been changed for a generation. Race relations are such that only the extremely self-deluded cannot feel the tug of taking sides . What do you think he is going to do if he gets 4 more years? What do you think that will do to the psyche, condition and day-to-day reality of living in the USA if racists are convinced that they are no longer the minority, that 2016 was not just a mistake and that America supports an unambiguously racist President who has their backs? And there are the knock-on effects both internationally and in international relationships. If Trump shows that overt right-wing racism wins, if the yt population sees improvement Trump might convince successors that his methods are a viable and working option. To stop that you need to cast him out and disgrace him before he establishes a working template of 1890 rules in the 21st century. If Trump shows that his methods work then why wouldn't the yt world internationally follow - with all that that means.

All that is standing between us and slavery/colonialist occupation is the attitude of the common man and those attitudes are being changed by this to make the previously unacceptable more acceptable. Trump winning makes his unacceptable behavior seem more accepted even to those that disagree with him . You do not want that to happen.

Apartheid was just a couple of decades ago so we know what they are capable of. DEMs with their superficially benign self-delusion allowing tactics are not the future either but at least those self-deluded populations will not be on your neck while you are trying to create real change. Well not initially at least.

No point in cutting of your nose to spite your face. US politics is backed by the big bucks and the insouciance + political inertia of the population. Whatever you do it is going to take time and it will take strategy. Creh numbers are declining so use that.

And finally TBA et-al have no answer for this. Getting rid of the DEMs can wait for 4 years (start in Jan 2021). Getting rid of Trump has to be done in Nov (start now) .

 

[Saltmoney]

Not saying it's anyone's fault, I'm just telling you how it is my guy. Why didn't protesters put hands on these people trying to derail the BLM protests. You had people in TLR saying "destruction doesn't matter insurance witll pay for it". BLM should have put hands on the people trying to derail the movement. I'm black , I look at things from an objective point of view. If black matter was smart they would have made sure that no one could derail the movement.

You can apply the same scenario to anything in life. If you have roommates and someone steals from one of your roommates, it would be smart to put cameras in your room so that whoever stole won't blame it on you.

You always gotta be mindful of agents/people trying to derail. BLM was full of idiots in the sense that they just said "fuk it let's go protest" without thinking about what could go wrong and who could take advantage.

I think the violence was needed!

Not the morally right thing to say but without the riots, which summoned the police forces across the country, the law enforcement groups wouldn't have been exposed for how evil, reckless and violent they are even when white people make up a large portion of the crowd.

The people who got an eye shot out or their skull fractured, unprovoked, didn't see that coming AT.ALL. and lots of people have for the very first time seen how shytty it can get when you want your voice heard but the leaders in higher positions don't give a f%%k about you.

Peaceful walking the streets wouldn't have kick started these major global protests. The peaceful protests haven't stopped at all since Floyd died but how many news stations are still covering those? Barely any because it's gotten boring to them.

The world was able to see the U.S. on fire live from their TV's and this unprecedented isolation bubble we've been in was the perfect breeding ground for it.

Trump was going to do him all the way anyway.

** Of course other groups with ulterior motives are mixed into this and it's right to call them out and let them know we're not on their side but overall I don't think they've weakened the movement significantly as the people who are upset about businesses being destroyed have their own unwavering agenda.

 

[Tha_Mac]

Suggest about what? Like I said, 19 black families just bought almost 100 acres in Georgia. They could be on the voting tip, but they didnt come together and say "lets vote". They came together and came up with some type of solution THEY THEMSELVES could do without relying on someone else. Something the vote or die crowd never touch on..

Equality or sovereignty?

Your fight is for equality in a inherently racist system? I dont get it bruh

Even if you own acres you still got to maneuver through the system. So why not make it better for the yourself and the black people who don't have enough to buy 100 acres? And I'm pretty sure you are allowed to buy acres and still vote. Either doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.

Okay. I understand that. But I can’t seem to understand why you all are constantly jumping on brothers because they don’t support the same old Cacs that you do. I can’t speak for the other brehs, but I despise Trump and I’d love to see him gone. On the contrary, I will not support someone that I also despise (Biden) to get him out. It’s like you guys are the DNC attack dogs and slave catchers, being sent to go and round up the runaways that don’t support them.

We may have the same goals and desires, but we only disagree on the process to reach those goals.

at you thinking that Dems are sending out "slave catchers" when everything Trump is doing is trying to take us back to pre-Civil Rights era America.

Be so blinded by hate that you can't even see it right in face, brehs.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

He basically just shytted on part of the EEOCs mission. This is gonna be interesting

 

[BaggerofTea]

People letting this cac fakkit @BigRemy_J derail the thread

 

[MoneyTron]

Both sides.

 

[JuvenileHell]

Both sides.

But her emails!

 

[TallMan_J]

Two people are fighting you. One has a knife and one only has fists. You are a trained fighter.

What do you do?

ANSWER: you deal with the Clear and Present Danger first. Then you stop the one who represents the less pressing immediate threat.

It ain't about you though is it? It's about a large group saying what they mean and doing what they say.

It is self-defeating to vote against Trump this time out and then to forget about the bigger picture.

The entire political structure has to change.

Maybe the progressive posse has something to say? Maybe you need to get grassroots action going - especially in the churches to get people to demand change for their votes.

Trump has already rolled back years of (superficial but partially effective) progress. The courts have already been changed for a generation. Race relations are such that only the extremely self-deluded cannot feel the tug of taking sides . What do you think he is going to do if he gets 4 more years? What do you think that will do to the psyche, condition and day-to-day reality of living in the USA if racists are convinced that they are no longer the minority, that 2016 was not just a mistake and that America supports an unambiguously racist President who has their backs? And there are the knock-on effects both internationally and in international relationships. If Trump shows that overt right-wing racism wins, if the yt population sees improvement Trump might convince successors that his methods are a viable and working option. To stop that you need to cast him out and disgrace him before he establishes a working template of 1890 rules in the 21st century. If Trump shows that his methods work then why wouldn't the yt world internationally follow - with all that that means.

All that is standing between us and slavery/colonialist occupation is the attitude of the common man and those attitudes are being changed by this to make the previously unacceptable more acceptable. Trump winning makes his unacceptable behavior seem more accepted even to those that disagree with him . You do not want that to happen.

Apartheid was just a couple of decades ago so we know what they are capable of. DEMs with their superficially benign self-delusion allowing tactics are not the future either but at least those self-deluded populations will not be on your neck while you are trying to create real change. Well not initially at least.

No point in cutting of your nose to spite your face. US politics is backed by the big bucks and the insouciance + political inertia of the population. Whatever you do it is going to take time and it will take strategy. Creh numbers are declining so use that.

And finally TBA et-al have no answer for this. Getting rid of the DEMs can wait for 4 years (start in Jan 2021). Getting rid of Trump has to be done in Nov (start now) .

Great response. Articulated well. Makes sense. Specifically the italic portions I’ve highlighted. This is probably the greatest response that I’ve read on this board that argues against not voting this election.

I will say that at this point in time, I am still not voting. BUT you made a lot great points and have gotten me looking at things from a different perspective. Maybe someone else will read it, and it may completely sway them to vote this election. If posters wrote and communicated like you instead of shilling and c00ning for the DNC all day, maybe some brehs would be open to consider what you guys have to say.

It’s still fukk @G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman for being a blatant agent and for the anti-Black things he’s said/done on here. I wouldn’t piss on that bytch if he was on fire, and I’m still on his ass.


But to you, great job. Great discourse. Great dialogue. And great conversation.

 

[TallMan_J]

Suggest about what? Like I said, 19 black families just bought almost 100 acres in Georgia. They could be on the voting tip, but they didnt come together and say "lets vote". They came together and came up with some type of solution THEY THEMSELVES could do without relying on someone else. Something the vote or die crowd never touch on..

Equality or sovereignty?

Your fight is for equality in a inherently racist system? I dont get it bruh

Ooooo....Really great points, breh.

at you thinking that Dems are sending out "slave catchers" when everything Trump is doing is trying to take us back to pre-Civil Rights era America.

Be so blinded by hate that you can't even see it right in face, brehs.

Why do continue to do this “But Trump’s bad”? I know this. How many times do I have to type that? The “Trump bad” argument isn’t going to sway anyone that also despises Biden. Us who aren’t voting know that Trump is bad. That’s why we’re not voting for him.


The point is, we also think that Biden is no better.