Are you familiar with the constitution?
Trump IMPEACHED by the US House; US Senate Trial Allows No New Witnesses & Acquits Trump
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Very much so...Are you familiar with the constitution?
Check out my thread on it
https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-u-s-constitution-line-by-line.731482/
Congressional oversight is one of the implied powers required for congress to carry out their job as expressed in the constitution.
There are numerous statutes that cover congressional oversight.
There's debate over whether a president can be arrested, but it's clear that the house is given explicit authority to impeach the president and the senate to remove.
Saying they need to take it to the court for them to decide is a red herring of sorts. It's also suggesting that congress abdicate their duty to appear more fair.
Anyway you can read up on some those statutes. I believe Wikipedia has links to them
Congressional oversight - Wikipedia
There are numerous statutes that cover congressional oversight.
There's debate over whether a president can be arrested, but it's clear that the house is given explicit authority to impeach the president and the senate to remove.
Saying they need to take it to the court for them to decide is a red herring of sorts. It's also suggesting that congress abdicate their duty to appear more fair.
Anyway you can read up on some those statutes. I believe Wikipedia has links to them
Congressional oversight - Wikipedia
Remember, Republicans aren't even arguing in good faith when they talk about taking it to court because they have voted against even issuing subpoenas - - a precursor to even exploring that route.
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Not based on the case the Dems have brought fourth...
Their entire case is based on him obstructing the house committees oversight which should have been settled by the courts...
The Dems chose not to wait and circumvented the courts...Claiming its an election season is not a good reason to circumvent the legal process...
So I'd vote NO on obstruction based on that...They had a far stronger case in the Mueller report for obstruction IMO...
Anyways the orange turd is guilty as fukk of abuse of power, that's not questionable and you only need to get him on that...
Why do they need to go through the courts?
Congress has the right to issue and enforce subpoenas without involving the courts.
The Fukin Prophecy
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Because the subpoenas are being contested by the executive branch...
You can't just subpoena advisers to the POTUS and white house lawyers...
Its a constitutional question of privilege and the courts have to decide that...
This is a strawman.
I'm not disagreeing with you on that.
But, you have to acknowledge that the Executive branch has it's independent rights too and doesn't just have to do whatever the Legislative says
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Props to Roberts...
Rethuglicans are on some other level of retardation right now...
They want the whistlblower, a second-hand witness to testify yet at the same time they are determined to block Bolton and Mulvaney from testifying who are first-hand witnesses...
Nothing they've done in this trial makes any got damn sense, this is not how impartial jurors behave...
The argument that Trump's DOJ is making is that congress does not have the right to use the judiciary to enforce subpoenas against the executive branch.
The argument Trump's lawyers are making is that they have the right to challenge a subpoena.
They do.
Now whether or not they did it the right way I don't know. I figure they're just trying to drag this shyt out in the courts. But that's not to say that they don't have the right.