Trump Approves U.S. Recognition of Israeli Annexation of the Golan Heights

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Greater Israel is coming

 

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Knesset speaker: US Golan stance is good first step toward West Bank recognition

trump probably also trying to boost likud at the polls with this.

whats crazy is hafiz and ehud barak actually claim pretty close to getting golan returned to syria in 2000. but barak got cold feet over bad polling on returning the golan and pulled out. hafiz really wanted the golan back before his son took power. golan is really relevant for both parties because of lake tiberia
if you guys have jstor access this is a really good article on the process
A MISSED CHANCE FOR PEACE: ISRAEL AND SYRIA'S NEGOTIATIONS OVER THE GOLAN HEIGHTS on JSTOR

 

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Greater Israel is coming

This is probably one of the better times in recent history for others countries to pull up.

 

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This is probably one of the better times in recent history for others countries to pull up.

problem is all these arab leaders pussies or in israel/US bag. butchers like MBS care more about turning sunnis against the shi'a and fukking with iran . erdogan might do more rhetorically but hes not about to actually pull up.

 

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Trump isn't a Zionist

 

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Greater Israel is coming

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Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says it is "possible" that God intended President Trump as a new Esther, who in the Bible convinced the king of Persia not to slaughter the Jewish people.


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Pompeo says it's 'possible' God planned Trump to save Jewish people
"I am confident that the Lord is at work here," Pompeo added, noting that he visited the tunnels under Jerusalem during his visit.

 

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This is probably one of the better times in recent history for others countries to pull up.

Let’s get those numbers you asked for....


Israel will wipe out any of their neighbors besides Iran.

But they don’t need to because most of the Arab states are allies now

 

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Israel will wipe out any of their neighbors besides Iran.

But they don’t need to because most of the Arab states are allies now

The goal was to get rid of the Assad regime, have Syria become a carbon copy of Somalia while Israel could annex the Hauran region next to the Golan, which is full of Druze that can be easily assimilated. It has some of the best farmland and potential oil deposits in Syria. But with Assad re-taking that area and the Russians even deploying there, this won't happen.

The Israeli occupied Golan has oil/gas deposits and lush green area. Ironically it’s been very peaceful since annexation besides some skirmishes of the Syrian war.

 

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Muslims countries don't care about the Palestinian people they only care about the land.

 

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Muslims countries don't care about the Palestinian people they only care about the land.

if youre talking about the governments of these countries i think if anything, the neighboring countries are concerned about Palestine much less because of the role of al-Quds in Islam than because of the impact of Palestinian refugees on their domestic politics (especially Jordan and Lebanon, but also in other countries like Kuwait). That concern also is not as simple as them "caring" about Palestinians, we've seen in Black September, Sabra and Shatilla how Arab states can perpetuate anti-Palestinian violence and persecution.

For Muslim people generally the billion Muslims have different levels of investment in the issue of Palestine for some reasons. some Muslims have an entitlement to al-Quds (seeing it as just as much theirs as for Palestinians) that is undeserved and ignorant. but a huge amount of Muslims are more concerned about a native people being exiled, repressed, killed and humiliated on a daily basis. the fact most palestinians are muslim is an important part of this because of the role of trans-national solidarity and identity in the religion.

 

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if youre talking about the governments of these countries i think if anything, the neighboring countries are concerned about Palestine much less because of the role of al-Quds in Islam than because of the impact of Palestinian refugees on their domestic politics (especially Jordan and Lebanon, but also in other countries like Kuwait). That concern also is not as simple as them "caring" about Palestinians, we've seen in Black September, Sabra and Shatilla how Arab states can perpetuate anti-Palestinian violence and persecution.

For Muslim people generally the billion Muslims have different levels of investment in the issue of Palestine for some reasons. some Muslims have an entitlement to al-Quds (seeing it as just as much theirs as for Palestinians) that is undeserved and ignorant. but a huge amount of Muslims are more concerned about a native people being exiled, repressed, killed and humiliated on a daily basis. the fact most palestinians are muslim is an important part of this because of the role of trans-national solidarity and identity in the religion.

How does that make you feel?

 

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How does that make you feel?

which part?

 

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which part?

Why are Palestinians still living in refugee camps and as third class citizens in Muslim countries?
Decades and decades later.


Why are Palestinians forced to live in the West when there are Muslim countries that they have shared values and solidarity with?


Why are Palestinians routinely targeted for punishment by their Muslim host governments and their citizens?


Just seems odd. Like a lack of humanity for the Palestinian people?

 

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Why are Palestinians still living in refugee camps and as third class citizens in Muslim countries?
Decades and decades later.
the reasons for this are different depending on the place. in lebanon i think it is 100 percent due to the confessionalist system where political representation is determined by religious status. historically the lebanese christians have been really unsettled by the idea of palestinian integration into lebanese society. one friend i have has a palestinian father and lebanese mother (both maronite christian) and grew up in a maronite city in the north. the anti-palestinian sentiment among the lebanese christians is so bad (even towards another maronite christian) his parents didnt even tell him his father is palestinian until he was like 14. he had no idea at all. if you're interested in that dynamic theres a lebanese movie called "the insult" about the palestinian-christian tension that does a good job at demonstrating it (some of the plot points are not very realistic but the dynamics in the movie are accurately represented). even non-christian lebanese can resent the perceived impact of sunni palestinians on the country, many blame the lebanese civil war on this.
in jordan palestinians have a more official status and i think actually tend to be more supportive of the monarchy than ethnic jordanians - mainly because they are grateful they arent in a limbo like lebanon.
in gulf states palestinians usually lack official status and rights but thats not that unusual for muslim non-citizens. a lot of muslims from southeast asia also work in those countries and face these same problems.
generally i think there is also a feeling of being worn down by non-palestinian arabs after more than 50 years of israel, and the large role of the issue of palestine in arab politics and international relations. so many arabs kind of resent this and, while not being pro-israel, couldnt really be described as pro-palestine. its kind of interesting how this is a reflection of what is happening in the west where people are becoming more and more critical of israeli government policies and supportive of palestine.

Why are Palestinians forced to live in the West when there are Muslim countries that they have shared values and solidarity with?
many muslim countries, especially muslim arab countries, have issues with food and water scarcity and poverty in place anyway. typically these authoritarian governments are more concerned with preserving patronage networks, maintaining power and enriching the upper echelon even further, providing for their own people, let alone palestinians, is not the top priority. so the situation is pretty awful generally. while this might be less true for non-arab palestinian states islam isn't the only relevant part of social life and existence for palestinians. because of the historic presence of european traders, missionaries and the british mandate in palestine there is a lot of familiarity with many elements of "western" or european (especially british, french and american) culture and society. an example is language: a palestinian is much more likely to speak english than a language like urdu or farsi - resettling in england would then be easier than in iran or pakistan. and of course there are the usual reasons why people from the global south immigrate to the global north.

Why are Palestinians routinely targeted for punishment by their Muslim host governments and citizens?
muslim governments are like most governments, they see extreme potential in the use of xenophobia to blame others and deflect from criticism. this is true of the citizens as well - trans-national islamic solidarity exists in some contexts and to some degrees but it also has its limit and still has to compete with local, state-based nationalisms. pan-islamic solidarity is almost always used by these governments somewhat cynically as a prop. you can also see this in the abject silence of arab muslim states on the abuse and detainment of uyghurs in xinjian, because china does a lot of business with those governments and tries to maintain good relations with all of them. so none of the politicians want to challenge that status quo.

Just seems odd. Like a lack of humanity for the Palestinian people?