True Detective Season 1 (NO SPOILERS)

[Czerka]

interview with the creator

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-mind-of-true-detective-s-nic-pizzolatto.html

What can you reveal about episode four, which is airing on Sunday?

Episode four is the beginning of Act Two. Suddenly, the rhythm of the entire show changes. The slow part is over now. The first three episodes move at a very deliberate, almost funereal cadence, like you’re marching toward something. And what you’re marching toward is that final image in episode three.

What’s an example of that?

Episode Five. I’ve just read a couple pieces where the critic tries to dismiss Cohle’s monologues as “the sort of half-baked loopiness you’d get in freshman year philosophy,” and that’s not true at all. If you pay attention to Cohle’s philosophies they’re actually much deeper and more nuanced and grounded in legitimate scientific and philosophical thought than some a$$hole getting stoned and talking about the meaning of life.

So in episode five—not to spoil anything—Cohle gives one of his metaphysical addresses. And you can see it as Job crying out to an uncaring God—or you could see it as a character trapped in a TV show yelling at the audience. I think that much, at least, is safe to print.

 

[Real]

Don't know why yall nikkas enjoy spoiling stuff for yourselves

 

[the cac mamba]

not that I'm complaining, but I wonder if they were really bumpin Wu-Tang in Louisiana like that back in the day.

i dont know shyt about if they were

but goddamn if that shyt wasnt PERFECT for that fukkin scene. best use of music ive seen in tv/movies in a while

 

[hex]

whats this Lovecraft that yall keep mentioning all about?

was able to find his entire collection in pdf

this shyt worth reading tho?

I dunno to tell you the truth, I was on my phone that's why i didn't give a link. From what I heard the books are good but you know with old stuff sometimes it's hard to tell if they live up to the hype.

If you've seen the movie "In The Mouth Of Madness", that's directly based on Lovecraft and his writings. Sutter Cane = Lovecraft. Or if you've played the game "Eternal Darkness", that's an homage to Lovecraft.

H.P. Lovecraft is one of the most influential horror writers in history. Everyone from Stephen King to John Carpenter cites him as a major influence on their careers.

He wrote during the 1920's and was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of his time. He's best known for creating The Cthulhu Mythos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos

An ongoing theme in Lovecraft's work is the complete irrelevance of mankind in the face of the cosmic horrors that apparently exist in the universe. Lovecraft made frequent reference to the "Great Old Ones": a loose pantheon of ancient, powerful deities from space who once ruled the Earth and who have since fallen into a deathlike sleep. This was first established in "The Call of Cthulhu", in which the minds of the human characters deteriorated when afforded a glimpse of what exists outside their perceived reality.

Lovecraft believed in a purposeless, mechanical, and uncaring universe that human beings, with their limited faculties, could never fully understand, and the cognitive dissonance caused by this leads to insanity. Lovecraft's viewpoint made no allowance for religious belief which could not be supported scientifically, with the incomprehensible, cosmic forces of his tales having as little regard for humanity as humans have for insects.

As you can tell, Rust from "True Detective" is a very Lovecraftian character. Also The King In Yellow that the show keeps mentioning is a direct reference to The Cthulhu Mythos. Hastur, one of the gods from The Cthulhu Mythos, is also known as The King In Yellow.

This is the opening paragraph from Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu":

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age.

His best shyt IMO is "The Call of Cthulhu" and "At The Mountains of Madness". My favorite short story of his is "Polaris".

Fred.

 

[Ice Cold]

If you've seen the movie "In The Mouth Of Madness", that's directly based on Lovecraft and his writings. Sutter Cane = Lovecraft. Or if you've played the game "Eternal Darkness", that's an homage to Lovecraft.

H.P. Lovecraft is one of the most influential horror writers in history. Everyone from Stephen King to John Carpenter cites him as a major influence on their careers.

He wrote during the 1920's and was waaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead of his time. He's best known for creating The Cthulhu Mythos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos





As you can tell, Rust from "True Detective" is a very Lovecraftian character. Also The King In Yellow that the show keeps mentioning is a direct reference to The Cthulhu Mythos. Hastur, one of the gods from The Cthulhu Mythos, is also known as The King In Yellow.

This is the opening paragraph from Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu":





His best shyt IMO is "The Call of Cthulhu" and "At The Mountains of Madness".

Fred.

I was gonna at you and be like "he prolly knows all about" cause you a book reading classic literature type dude.

 

[god=nature=we'reFUCKED]

Ready brehs! soon....

 

[Tetris v2.0]

interview with the creator

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-mind-of-true-detective-s-nic-pizzolatto.html

What can you reveal about episode four, which is airing on Sunday?

Episode four is the beginning of Act Two. Suddenly, the rhythm of the entire show changes. The slow part is over now. The first three episodes move at a very deliberate, almost funereal cadence, like you’re marching toward something. And what you’re marching toward is that final image in episode three.

What’s an example of that?

Episode Five. I’ve just read a couple pieces where the critic tries to dismiss Cohle’s monologues as “the sort of half-baked loopiness you’d get in freshman year philosophy,” and that’s not true at all. If you pay attention to Cohle’s philosophies they’re actually much deeper and more nuanced and grounded in legitimate scientific and philosophical thought than some @sshole getting stoned and talking about the meaning of life.

So in episode five—not to spoil anything—Cohle gives one of his metaphysical addresses. And you can see it as Job crying out to an uncaring God—or you could see it as a character trapped in a TV show yelling at the audience. I think that much, at least, is safe to print.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I doubt it'll go full tilt into some crazy shyt but the show is Lovecraftian without the actual monsters. Like I said earlier in the thread, The King In Yellow figure from whatever cult they're chasing is an avatar of Hastur from The Cthulhu Mythos.

Fred.

also it's a reference to The King In Yellow by Robert Chambers. Definitely a good book to cop.

 

[hex]

also it's a reference to The King In Yellow by Robert Chambers. Definitely a good book to cop.

Well yeah, he influenced Lovecraft. What's funny is Robert Chambers took Carcosa from the short-story "An Inhabitant of Carcosa" by Ambrose Bierce:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcosa

And like I said a ton of people were influenced by Lovecraft. That's what's so great about all these old horror stories, people would take an idea/place/character briefly or vaguely mentioned in one story or book, and expand on it so it seemed like a connected universe. The biggest connected universe is Lovecraft's though. Everything from the "Evil Dead" series to Stephen King references his creations.

Fred.

 

[Numpsay]

Can we get a drop for The King in Yellow for Ereaders?

NVM found it.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8492

 

[hex]

Can we get a drop for The King in Yellow for Ereaders?

NVM found it.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8492

The Coli should get our Rust on see if we can piece together any clues in this.

Fred.

 

[robb]

got my grill ready to fire up for tonite...im eating good off this show.
literally.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

We eating good tonight fellas

 

[Type Username Here]

Been starving myself all week for this meal

 

[Ciggavelli]