It doesn't.
It's just caving to fan optics and it's dumb. The preference is up to the DC and what they like to see strategically. They're literally making him the scapegoat for the past few weeks and it's a little wild to see Kyle lean into it.
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It doesn't.
It's just caving to fan optics and it's dumb. The preference is up to the DC and what they like to see strategically. They're literally making him the scapegoat for the past few weeks and it's a little wild to see Kyle lean into it.
It's a double edged sword because I've had DCs call from the booth and their reasoning was they could see the field better. BUT the positives to being on the sideline is direct interaction. Being able to talk to the coach directly and him asking me what did I see or this is what he saw and we can talk about it is priceless.
I can tell you this much, I remember a game we played against Stanford and was getting lit up the 1st 2 drives and I come out and the coach is asking me what do I see and I tell him they're running hitches to both sides and the TE is running a clear out slant and the slot is running 5 yard in and go and they did it 3 times because we're playing off. I tell him they're gonna run it again because we're playing off in case they slant. I tell him let's give them the same look but let us(safeties)crash. He calls the other safety over and then the whole secondary and I tell them what I see. Coach says ok let's do it then from there he tell the linebackers to drop deeper in their zones and what do you know. We get a pick 6 like 4 or 5 plays later. We picked that play off twice because we were able to communicate in real time. That's why I'm a proponent of coaches being on the sidelines.
Shanahan will discuss Wilks possibly coaching from 49ers' sideline
Kyle Shanahan says he and Steve Wilks will have a conversation about whether the defensive coordinator should coach from the 49ers’ sideline moving forward.
www.nbcsportsbayarea.com
Looks like Shanny thinks he should be on the field too.
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Jmare007
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Shanahan will discuss Wilks possibly coaching from 49ers' sideline
Kyle Shanahan says he and Steve Wilks will have a conversation about whether the defensive coordinator should coach from the 49ers’ sideline moving forward.
Looks like Shanny thinks he should be on the field too.
I think y'all are also right in the sense the defense is too used to having the direct contact and feedback. Both Saleh an DeMeco were there for them and were also hyping them up and cussing them out constantly. Maybe that's just the culture and Wilks will have to adapt or leave
YakSpiller
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Ah! So like I was saying above relaying information directly. That makes a difference.
In my mind I was thinking he can see the field better and see what’s happening with each player…but at the same time he has to have someone (Shanny I’m assuming) tell the players how to adjust. Which is probably why they look lost on a lot of plays. At the same time he’s not getting clear feedback from the players on the field and adjusting to exactly what they are seeing/reacting to in game.
I think y'all are also right in the sense the defense is too used to having the direct contact and feedback. Both Saleh an DeMeco were there for them and were also hyping them up and cussing them out constantly. Maybe that's just the culture and Wilks will have to adapt or leave
Honestly I think that's it more than anything.
Yeah except Shanny wouldn't be the guy relaying anything because he's an offensive guy so it's probably Kocurek or Sorenson the control or assistant DC.
Kyle is a weasel. You brought him in…at least have some balls and stand up for the guy. Folk overreacting and out for blood cuz the team is struggling. Like it’s all due to one man.
Too many babies on the team. Seriously do your ducking job. How having the DC in the booth or upstairs impacts your level of play is ridiculous. As if players learn how to tackle when the DC is on the sidelines.
The offense is struggling too but I looked and over the past 3 weeks the defense has been one of the worst in the league. We can't struggle on both sides of the ball, Kyle knows the offensive struggles will fall on him and Brock but honestly that's mainly gonna come down to limiting mistakes. On defense, we don't even look like the same team from last year. Starting with that Arizona drive where they marched right down the field on us to open the 2nd half.
Bosa been ass.
Too many babies on the team. Seriously do your ducking job. How having the DC in the booth or upstairs impacts your level of play is ridiculous. As if players learn how to tackle when the DC is on the sidelines.
It's not for motivation, I explained it. A player's feedback in game is just as important as a coaches feedback, especially if you're struggling.
Jmare007
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I don't disagree with any of this but if the identity(culture of the defense is predicated on having a dude on the sidelines babysitting them, then whoever is in charge of the defense better adapt to that because the players on the defense ain't changing any time soon.Too many babies on the team. Seriously do your ducking job. How having the DC in the booth or upstairs impacts your level of play is ridiculous. As if players learn how to tackle when the DC is on the sidelines.
Dat916nigga
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No matter how bad going on a 3 game losing streak is, at least we don’t have to watch Jimmy G be our QB no more
It's a double edged sword because I've had DCs call from the booth and their reasoning was they could see the field better. BUT the positives to being on the sideline is direct interaction. Being able to talk to the coach directly and him asking me what did I see or this is what he saw and we can talk about it is priceless.
I can tell you this much, I remember a game we played against Stanford and was getting lit up the 1st 2 drives and I come out and the coach is asking me what do I see and I tell him they're running hitches to both sides and the TE is running a clear out slant and the slot is running 5 yard in and go and they did it 3 times because we're playing off. I tell him they're gonna run it again because we're playing off in case they slant. I tell him let's give them the same look but let us(safeties)crash. He calls the other safety over and then the whole secondary and I tell them what I see. Coach says ok let's do it then from there he tell the linebackers to drop deeper in their zones and what do you know. We get a pick 6 like 4 or 5 plays later. We picked that play off twice because we were able to communicate in real time. That's why I'm a proponent of coaches being on the sidelines.
If a DC needs to talk to you from the booth it's just a phone call away if he's in the booth. There's more time on the sideline to communicate than is actually conveyed on TV. Most times folks are just chilling after the initial debrief. Everything in this scenario can be conveyed through position coaches and the only difference is the players "feel" more involved. A DC in the booth probably wouldn't need you to tell him everything because he could see it and make an adjustment.
On the flip side, I've had a DC be on the field not listen to any input I said and it broke our relationship for the season. You do what's best for the DC to be comfortable to start because right now it's giving off the vibe that Kyle, players, and the fans think they know better than him because Demeco and Saleh did it a different way. No one complained about where he was located in the first 5 games. Ain't nobody say nothing when his defense held the Cowboys to 10 points. It's all fake posturing and player tantrums. That's cool if your situation worked, but his was fine until the offense couldn't score more than 17 points. Literally 17 points and our starting QB has thrown 5 interceptions in 3 games and only @JLova is really actually acknowledging it.
It's an irrelevant misdirection. That's why all of these leaks are dirty pool to me. I KNOW you know changing something like this midseason ain't nothing, but PR and soothing egos. The whole defense who got PAID needs to be shamed a lot more than the first year DC who's been mentioned as losing his ability to call defenses and being forced to the sideline against his will. Listening to Romo cape for Bosa all game made my stomach hurt. It's the most basic job in the world for a DE to get a QB to step up in the pocket. This ain't hockey. You don't get credit for influencing a sack if you're the highest paid defensive PLAYER in HISTORY and Myles Garrett made him look chump by comparison on the same field the week before. Hendrickson played better than him too. I know singled up blocking when I see it and he's sighing about Wilks calls after the game. They are serving his man up on a platter because he's the new guy and no one else wants to eat crow about Purdy or Bosa or our other expensive signings that aren't playing to their contract level.
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