Topic of Canada being basically India came up during Christmas dinner

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Most everyday folks are fine with vetted, legal immigration for folks that are working skilled jobs who will contribute to the community as a whole. Cheap labor is not that. What is the issue with that stance exactly?
Not even skilled jobs. Cause thats just an excuse to fire domestic skilled labor for indentured servants. It incentivizes disinvestment in the national economy

Im envisioning a person who is globally recoginzed in whatever field they are a member of. Legit foreign leaders like a warner von braun or Einstein or Okazaki Reiji. People which cannot be made domestically because each person takes decades of years and unique life experiences to build.

Id prefer if it was literally limited to those research gigs requiring PHDs and only those kinds of jobs. Aside from that, You can totally train a native to do a job requiring a bachelors or masters in anything. Simply going to school in your own country shouldnt entitle you to compete with a local who is also capable of going to school. And this isnt just tech. But also includes nurses which have to to deal with this regarding Philippines diluting wages. Employers are running away from paying a fair wage and decent benefits to first world workers. The "skilled worker" thing is a smoke screen.

In the American context, i realized how nonsensical it was when Biden passed the chips act which required American workers to build, design, and engineer complex semiconductors in order to get govt contracts. All of a sudden companies like Nvidia and Qualcom which used to hide behind the shortage of "skilled workers" excuse were motivated to hire and train domestic tech people in nevada and arizona. All of a sudden they could magically make investments in training programs at local universities and trade schools because they HAD TO. Wages magically rose higher because they HAD TO due to a govt mandate.
 
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The 2024 liberal playbook must be to keep telling folks their personal experiences are wrong, be told they are the ones wrong, then just ignore it after :dead:

This. Imagine defending Indians :dead:

I'm not from Canada and I know it's terrible from everything I read on Reddit and The Coli. People need to stop arguing about things they have little understanding of. If a Canadian corrects me on anything, Im not gonna trip and get mad because obviously they know more than me.
 

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Most everyday folks are fine with vetted, legal immigration for folks that are working skilled jobs who will contribute to the community as a whole. Cheap labor is not that. What is the issue with that stance exactly?

Cause wages will go down for EVERYONE while being educated and experienced. Imagine if your employer forced you to take a 30% pay cut, while prices continue to rise? That's what is going to happen. Making fast food managers make less than 30k a year and make IT workers for 70k.
 

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Cause wages will go down for EVERYONE while being educated and experienced. Imagine if your employer forced you to take a 30% pay cut, while prices continue to rise? That's what is going to happen. Making fast food managers make less than 30k a year and make IT workers for 70k.
Fast food managers and IT aren’t what I consider skilled workers. No need to bring masses over to man a fukking burger station or triage someone’s e mail access
 

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Fast food managers and IT aren’t what I consider skilled workers. No need to bring masses over to man a fukking burger station or triage someone’s e mail access

There are not enough IT or computer jobs available, and will eventually spill over to blue collar jobs. These corporations want infinite profits, at the expense of "entitled" American workers not working for pennies on the dollar
 

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There are not enough IT or computer jobs available, and will eventually spill over to blue collar jobs. These corporations want infinite profits, at the expense of "entitled" American workers not working for pennies on the dollar
So, why exactly do we need to import immigrants to do those jobs? That’s what this thread is about
 

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So, why exactly do we need to import immigrants to do those jobs? That’s what this thread is about

To LOWER wages in the dishes of greedy CEOs and Trump.

The A.erican worker is their enemy and according to them, we demand too much for simply asing for a living wage.
 

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To LOWER wages in the dishes of greedy CEOs and Trump.

The A.erican worker is their enemy and according to them, we demand too much for simply asing for a living wage.
So we agree we do not need masses of immigrants coming over to either do nothing, or do regular Joe jobs? What’s the back and forth about :dead:
 

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So we agree we do not need masses of immigrants coming over to either do nothing, or do regular Joe jobs? What’s the back and forth about :dead:

You haphazardly changing positions because your lord and master Elon Musk said so.
 

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Exactly what position are I changing up on? You think I was pro open borders? :dead:

You were anti immigration, legal and illegal, until Musk said that he like cheap labor from IT jobs by Indians.
 
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