Top paid QBs now....vs 5 years ago.

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Goff deserves it, too. He's winning 9.7 games per 17, which isn't elite regular season winning but it'll be over 10 by the end of this year...

More importantly we've watched him take two different teams to conference championships, two different coaches, so he's not simply a McVay product. He's won his division 3x and been to the playoffs 4x in 8 completed seasons. He's got a Super Bowl run under his belt, 7 of the guys on the current list don't have that, and right now Hurts can't be placed in the same category as Goff and Burrow. He hasn't proven to be a consistent winner and from a skill perspective he's not as accurate nor as consistent a passer as Goff nor Burrow...

The best quarterbacks win and they win often, it's the most important characteristic you can have as a quarterback. You win in spite of roster or coaching deficiencies. I'm hammering this Goff point because people want it both ways with him, and not necessarily saying you do...

You have people who say he wasn't good enough for McVay but if he's a McVay creation he wouldn't be able to go to Detroit of all places and win. We've seen mid quarterbacks struggle with a solid team around them. Then people will say how good Campbell is as a coach but Campbell was an unknown, unproven coach when Goff, who wasn't unproven, got there. Goff struggled some in McVay's system but McVay has admitted he was too hard on Goff and he didn't like him, he said he wishes he'd handled that relationship differently...

Goff had a .677 win percentage with McVay as his coach, vs a .519 win percentage in Detroit. He's played 8 completed seasons...

Padford has played 15 completed seasons and has a .556 win percentage with McVay, vs a .448 win percentage in Detroit. He's had twice as long a career as Goff to this point, I know exactly who Stat Padford is. Goff has won more in Detroit and he won more in LA, Padford was the right, older, mature QB to step in the moment to push a veteran, already consistent squad over the top in '21. But there's no doubt to me McVay could have won a Bowl with Goff had he nurtured that relationship more...

Goff deserves to be Top 10 paid because he's one of the 10 best quarterbacks alive. Padford has always been borderline Top 10, in that sense he and Goff are similar but he's done way more losing than winning, which is some Eli shyt, it's not Top 10 shyt...

Excuse my rant, I just get triggered when I see Padford or see people downplay Goff! 🤣
Can’t put hurts in the same category as Burrow? :dead:
Because he did it in his 2nd year. Because in 4 seasons, he's been hurt two of them and had his season cut short. Do you hold anyone else's injury year against them?

Because in two uninjured years he had his team in a Super Bowl and the AFC Championship, in two years he doesn't get hurt he has his team in The Final Four...

Listen, at some point the bill will come due for him and he's nearing that point. But he instantly brought winning culture to a team that hadn't won a playoff game in like 30 years before he got there. He's the only guy who consistently plays Mahomes to a draw, these other guys have maybe a game they go toe to toe with Mahomes but they are consistently outplayed by him. If I'm paying a guy a Top 10 salary I need to know he can match Mahomes' level...

Burrow is also the only active guy to beat MaWhiteMan in the playoffs. And was on the precipice of doing it again...

Burrow is worth the hype and the money, and again, the bill will come due sook enough. Right now, Y5, 4 completed seasons, he's worth every dime...

This is no comparison to bytch ass Eli who was a turnover magnet (Burrow isn't). Eli, who managed to play 16 years but was sitting home in January 10 of those years...

I'm giving a guy Top 10 money who only gets us un the playoffs less than 40% of the time? And he can't even use Burrow's injury excuse because the waterhead mf was an iron man and always healthy...

Eli, who only made the playoffs 6x in 16 years, did you know he never won a playoff game, NOT ONE, outside of 2007 and 2011? This jughead pasty played 14 more years besides those 2 and never won ONE playoff game. He had two Flacco runs...

He had two Padford runs...

Except, even Padford and Flacco won playoff games outside their Super Bowl years...

Listen, you'd never give the SB back. It counts and Eli was great during both playoff runs. You can't even say if he got you to the playoffs you were money because yhe 4 (LOL) other times he got you to the playoffs he lost. He was a guy if you gave him an aggressive, versatile defense with a dominant pass rush, + an elite running game, you could possible catch fire and win it all...

2007 and 2011 weren't what he was his whole career, though. This cracker has a .500 career record, Mr 8-8. You watched this dude play, he was not a better football player than Joey B!
They all play Mahomes to a draw. Stop with this foolish narrative. Lamar did the same. Jalen Hurts did the same in the super bowl. “If burrow was healthy” narrative is rich coming from you. Considering you’ve used anti health arguments against other athletes. The bill won’t have to come due for burrow, because he gets to live off of “what ifs” and benefit of a doubt like no other QB. He’s fully healthy now. And while he’s killing it, he’s 1-3, with his only own coming against the panthers, and one of his losses coming against New England, where Burrow and that offense only put up 10pts. He’s come into the league with a ready made offense and weapons. We can’t even play the “if only Burrow has such and such” game. The OLine is the only tribulation Burrow has had.
 

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Can’t put hurts in the same category as Burrow? :dead:

They all play Mahomes to a draw. Stop with this foolish narrative. Lamar did the same. Jalen Hurts did the same in the super bowl. “If burrow was healthy” narrative is rich coming from you. Considering you’ve used anti health arguments against other athletes. The bill won’t have to come due for burrow, because he gets to live off of “what ifs” and benefit of a doubt like no other QB. He’s fully healthy now. And while he’s killing it, he’s 1-3, with his only own coming against the panthers, and one of his losses coming against New England, where Burrow and that offense only put up 10pts. He’s come into the league with a ready made offense and weapons. We can’t even play the “if only Burrow has such and such” game. The OLine is the only tribulation Burrow has had.
Hurts does have a good record but he's erratic, tell me when Burrow has ever been as erratic a passer as Hurts? This nikka is boom or bust, he misses easy reads, can hold the ball too long, and sometimes that shyt comes out of his hand any kinda way...

He's also 3-7 in his last 10 games so there's that, 3-8 if you include his playoff game, he's undoing his goodwill from '22 and the first two-thirds of '23 in rapid speed. And really even in the 10-1 start last year he was throwing ducks and picks left and right. '22 is the only year he looked elite...

Burrow has more than just one elite year...

I just said other guys have one game they've played MaCracker to a head. Burrow plays him to a draw every single time. Allen absolutely does not play MagaMan to a draw every time, neither does Lamar. Burrow went into Allen's house and outplayed him, Allen always getting little bro'd by someone in the playoffs (for the record he's elite I'm just saying Burrow right there with him)...

The OLine is the most relevant gift you can give a quarterback. You can't downplay that. You can win with mid at the skill positions, Brady won many Super Bowls with average talent at the skill positions, but lost Super Bowls when his OLine was mid...

Your Wade argument doesn't work here 🤣 Wade played 16 years. Burrow only 4 completed seasons. Wade got to play with two of the 10 greatest players ever, including THE greatest player ever, that accentuated his championship resume. Burrow would need the equivalent of a GOAT-level player somewhere, and while Chase is an elite player today, Burrow hasn't played with Cheetah, Kelce, or Chris Jones----------------->guys who are All-Time, Canton-bound, GOAT level players at their positions...

Burrow hasn't played for a Reid, one of tge greatest coaches ever. He hasn't had Veach running his front office...

Wade had GOAT-level players, GOAT level executive, and a Top 15 All-Time coach in addition to Riley, a GOAT-level coach when he won in '06. Not the sane set of circumstances at all...
 

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Mahomes not being on the right is the craziest thing to me. I'll be damn if I paid a QB more than Mahomes, his contract should have been the benchmark. Only guys deserving of making his kind of money are Lamar, and Burrow. Possibly Allen and he ain't listed either :dead:


Starting to look like the Chiefs knew the decline was coming soon:wow:. It makes sense when you think about his play style that he wouldnt last long. Ill give him until 32 before he maxes out and they are looking for a replacement. And before im accused of trolling the reason is escapability. Escapability is his best asset like Russell Wilson,without it he is Clark Kent. And hes not athletic enough to have even the slightest decline like say a Lamar could and still be effective.


Far as the list,give the qbs on the left:mjlol:
 

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Hurts does have a good record but he's erratic, tell me when Burrow has ever been as erratic a passer as Hurts? This nikka is boom or bust, he misses easy reads, can hold the ball too long, and sometimes that shyt comes out of his hand any kinda way...

He's also 3-7 in his last 10 games so there's that, 3-8 if you include his playoff game, he's undoing his goodwill from '22 and the first two-thirds of '23 in rapid speed. And really even in the 10-1 start last year he was throwing ducks and picks left and right. '22 is the only year he looked elite...

Burrow has more than just one elite year...

I just said other guys have one game they've played MaCracker to a head. Burrow plays him to a draw every single time. Allen absolutely does not play MagaMan to a draw every time, neither does Lamar. Burrow went into Allen's house and outplayed him, Allen always getting little bro'd by someone in the playoffs (for the record he's elite I'm just saying Burrow right there with him)...

The OLine is the most relevant gift you can give a quarterback. You can't downplay that. You can win with mid at the skill positions, Brady won many Super Bowls with average talent at the skill positions, but lost Super Bowls when his OLine was mid...

Your Wade argument doesn't work here 🤣 Wade played 16 years. Burrow only 4 completed seasons. Wade got to play with two of the 10 greatest players ever, including THE greatest player ever, that accentuated his championship resume. Burrow would need the equivalent of a GOAT-level player somewhere, and while Chase is an elite player today, Burrow hasn't played with Cheetah, Kelce, or Chris Jones----------------->guys who are All-Time, Canton-bound, GOAT level players at their positions...

Burrow hasn't played for a Reid, one of tge greatest coaches ever. He hasn't had Veach running his front office...

Wade had GOAT-level players, GOAT level executive, and a Top 15 All-Time coach in addition to Riley, a GOAT-level coach when he won in '06. Not the sane set of circumstances at all...
We doing this franchise BS burrow. “Bbbbbut look at that franchise!” :mjlol:

Oh brother. Yeah, at this rate Joey cool doesn’t need to prove anything. Just send him to canton by the end of the season. Must be nice to only be expected to not do too much. :mjlol:

Cheetah has been gone for 2yrs, and the machine kept rolling without him. Imagine trying to use Mahome HoF talent, when he won a super bowl in what was essentially supposed to be a “down year”. Never seen another QB not have to prove anything beyond 3yrs be crowned as much as Burrow has. :dead:

2022 was the most valuable super bowl appearance of all time apparently.
 

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if this is the reality of QB pay for even non elite guys, then have a ceiling for how much of a teams cap it can take up. I hate seeing teams have to lose good talent and not being able to pay other positions because of the stress on paying a QB. Its not as easy as saying the teams shouldnt pay these deals, its just the reality of the league right now
 

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if this is the reality of QB pay for even non elite guys, then have a ceiling for how much of a teams cap it can take up. I hate seeing teams have to lose good talent and not being able to pay other positions because of the stress on paying a QB. Its not as easy as saying the teams shouldnt pay these deals, its just the reality of the league right now


It is as easy as not paying a guy who hasnt done anything. I get the Ravens playing hardball with Lamar and ultimately Lamar won out. You can see Lamar has it in him to go toe to toe with the elites and he has two mvps. But your telling me these owners just cant bring themselves to not pay Tua or Trevor Lawrence:mjlol:

What they really need to do is tell these qbs to go fukk themselves when it comes to not drafting Qbs high in the first round, like how Greenbay did with aaron. But id do it with these young QBs who havent won anything either.


Instead ,they have some unwritten rule where you shouldnt because it will hurt your QBs feelings and confidence:gucci:


And these dumb ass owners actually fell for that nonsense. Its clearly just something agents have done to kill any leverage owners could have. At least have a Flacco or Gardner Minshew in the cut in case one of these bums have the audacity to try to strongarm 50-60 mil out of me:mjlol:
 

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It is as easy as not paying a guy who hasnt done anything. I get the Ravens playing hardball with Lamar and ultimately Lamar won out. You can see Lamar has it in him to go toe to toe with the elites and he has two mvps. But your telling me these owners just cant bring themselves to not pay Tua or Trevor Lawrence:mjlol:

What they really need to do is tell these qbs to go fukk themselves when it comes to not drafting Qbs high in the first round, like how Greenbay did with aaron. But id do it with these young QBs who havent won anything either.


Instead ,they have some unwritten rule where you shouldnt because it will hurt your QBs feelings and confidence:gucci:


And these dumb ass owners actually fell for that nonsense. Its clearly just something agents have done to kill any leverage owners could have. At least have a Flacco or Gardner Minshew in the cut in case one of these bums have the audacity to try to strongarm 50-60 mil out of me:mjlol:
there just arent enough quality QBs, I get what youre saying about just not paying them, but those same guys will go to the open market and still get these huge deals. If the Dolphins & Jags let Tua/Lawrence hit FA this past offseason, teams would line up boats up $$ for them. Its just the reality, and if its gonna be this way, lets these teams go crazy on QB money but dont make it impact the ability to pay and build up the rest of the roster
 

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I’m all for people getting paid but Caleb Williams received 39 million GUARANTEED before doing anything because he MIGHT become a great QB

The qb market is fukked the entire right side is overpaid
 
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