Top Conservative Magazine: Transgender people don't exist

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Trans is a Latin noun or prefix, meaning "across", "beyond" or "on the opposite side".

"hermaphrodites" are not on any side, so they are not trans. they have not begun on any side, so if they choose to leave their neutral position and claim a side, it is not a transition

trans is when you actually are on one side, and have made a change, or "transition" to the opposite side
:ohhh: Im debating something pointless.
 
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Hermaphrodites are the True trangendered. These other freaks are just the mentally ill that are telling us they're dogs because they say Ruff Ruff.
Y'all are not the only group who struggle with social stigma regarding your sexual identity. You shouldn't be such a crab in the barrel.
 

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To expand on my previous post- the real irony for me is that the people in opposition are often strongly religious in a crude, literalist sense, being part of the Christian Right- somehow, being transgender is a mental illness, despite its clear roots in a variety of documented social, genetic, etc, factors, but talking snakes, magical fruit trees, miracles, creationism, and other anti-scientific nonsense is the Truth. By any reasonable standard, the former is less delusional and more modest than the latter. In addition, transgenders never contributed to war, mass murder, etc.

What does religion have to do with anything though? Aside from the creationist minority, most religious people don't try to explain their beliefs using science, they chalk them up to faith.
 

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What does religion have to do with anything though? Aside from the creationist minority, most religious people don't try to explain their beliefs using science, they chalk them up to faith.

Well, my personal view is that political prejudices are rarely justified by reason. That's the reason there is a correlation between religion and, say, anti-gay beliefs- they both originate in emotional attachments that weren't made by evidence-based decisions (and this isn't to say that liberals who embrace gays necessarily thought it out before doing so, either, since their views similarly don't originate in reason.) Generally, people use those kinds of arguments to justify their prejudices. Presenting an argument in scientific guise makes it seem like it's coming from a place of cold, detached, objective reasoning, even if that's usually an attempt to justify an existing prejudice. That's why the man in the National Review article is doing it, despite having no scientific credentials whatsoever. That doesn't mean none of these claims about social/political issues like these made with science aren't true or anything, of course.

And the thing with certain religious groups is that they'll be happy to shyt on science when it suits them, but (wrongly) invoke it when they think it supports their prejudices, which for me is a perfect example of how disingenuous it is, even if they aren't consciously being hypocritical.

If someone says "yeah, I hate that because the Bible says it's bad," then to me that's a much more honest argument then making struggle points based on scientific misunderstanding, and I respect it much more, but to me that group isn't the majority.
 

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I have a wife and a child. You have a woman with animal print nailpolish waiting for you in the bed. What a intellectual. :russ:
My wife is a financial advisor, Hoegli. Your wife gives her hot oil manicures for $30.
 
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My wife is a financial advisor, Hoegli. Your wife gives her hot oil manicures $30.
Is that another way of saying shes unemployed and not far from Broke? You carrying the burden of the whole family. You not a power couple. I see why you so furious all day. So morons ask your wife what to do with their money while you two dont even have a few hundred grand in the bank. I think she needs a better hustle. Lets encourage her to step her game up.
 
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