Top 5 Heavyweights (currently)

[patscorpio]

Sounds about right. Very top heavy division.

there is definitely some talent bubblin outside the top 5 but the right fights have to be made for them to get noticed more

 

[King]

Why the fukk is Dillian on that list?

You work for Eddie Hearn?

And Usyk is already above Wilder?

 

[patscorpio]

I do agree with you about the prospects tho. They gotta show us something. Whyte has a much better resume than Wilder and I'd favor him to beat Wilder also.

Copp wrote a good article about the heavies prior the joshua-usyk fight

What boxing's biggest division looks like ahead of a momentous month of fights

mentioned the prospects and other contenders

 

[patscorpio]

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And I dont feel the division is THAT bad. Fury, Usyk, Joshua and Wilder can make for a nice round robin of entertaining fights. Plus with fighters like Joe Joyce, Dillian Whyte, Jared Anderson, Efe Ajagba waiting on the sidelines, we may be in for even more entertainment in the coming years.

honestly a WBSS would be perfect for this (with the cooperation of certain promoters lol)..heavyweight its far from a live division though bro..the division needs a real shakeup even more than what usyk did this past weekend

 

[Creflo ½ Dollar]

The host of bizarre and sad excuses Wilder had after he lost showed us all his mindset. Same thing happened when Kovalev lost- taking no responsibility for what went wrong which means nothing will truly be changed. However Joshua has taken his losses on the chin and just vowed to be better. That's the difference in mindset.

I think both are damaged fighters mentally . When Fury got up from that right hand in the 12th and put beats on him..Wilder ain’t been the same. That’s why Fury went out and took his heart last fight.


But all in all having Fury and Usyk at the top of the food chain is great for boxing. Damn all these so called big fights that supposedly got messed up. Since they are well rounded great fighters they will weed out all the frauds. To beat them you actually gone have to know what you doing.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Why the fukk is Dillian on that list?

You work for Eddie Hearn?

And Usyk is already above Wilder?

Whyte has wins over Povetkin, Helenius, Chisora (2x), Browne and Joseph Parker. It isn't a murderers row of opposition, but it's wins over top 10 rated heavyweights.

And Usyks victory over Joshua literally trumps any victory on Wilders record. Add on the fact Usyk has more skills and less excuses than Wilder and its a no brainer b, stop playing lol.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

honestly a WBSS would be perfect for this (with the cooperation of certain promoters lol)..heavyweight its far from a live division though bro..the division needs a real shakeup even more than what usyk did this past weekend

I dk bruh, nothing shakes up a heavyweight division like a cruiserweight coming in and dominating

But tbh I'm not sure what you mean by shakeup. I just think the division needs the best to fight the best and to work its way to an undisputed champ. Undisputed champs are the shakeup all divisions need.

 

[patscorpio]

Whyte has wins over Povetkin, Helenius, Chisora (2x), Browne and Joseph Parker. It isn't a murderers row of opposition, but it's wins over top 10 rated heavyweights.

And Usyks victory over Joshua literally trumps any victory on Wilders record. Add on the fact Usyk has more skills and less excuses than Wilder and its a no brainer b, stop playing lol.

don't forget rivas too..shyt it might actually be his best boxing performance (even with the issue that was never concluded)

 

[King]

Whyte has wins over Povetkin, Helenius, Chisora (2x), Browne and Joseph Parker. It isn't a murderers row of opposition, but it's wins over top 10 rated heavyweights.

And Usyks victory over Joshua literally trumps any victory on Wilders record. Add on the fact Usyk has more skills and less excuses than Wilder and its a no brainer b, stop playing lol.

So 10+ successful title defenses mean nothing?

Get all the way the fukk outta here

Joshua has ducked Wilder for YEARS

 

[R=G]

I quite literally cant say that. Prior to the Fury 2 embarrassment, Wilder was already severely limited skill/talent wise. More limited than his resume is of quality opposition. Since the shameful loss and his bizarro excuses/conspiracies, I'm even more convinced he has nothing left. Nothing I saw last Sat night when Joshua lost to Usyk makes me believe Wilder can do the same to him. Joshua still has a better resume, better skills/craft, bigger frame and more stable mindset. Cuz like you said all he has is a right hand and we all saw that that cant save him, only his trainer, a ref and a white towel can.



And I dont feel the division is THAT bad. Fury, Usyk, Joshua and Wilder can make for a nice round robin of entertaining fights. Plus with fighters like Joe Joyce, Dillian Whyte, Jared Anderson, Efe Ajagba waiting on the sidelines, we may be in for even more entertainment in the coming years.

Shameful? Either Fury is the best or he isnt..lol

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

So 10+ successful title defenses mean nothing?

Get all the way the fukk outta here

Joshua has ducked Wilder for YEARS

Ayo, truly think for a moment what you're saying and what I'm saying. I never said 10+ defenses is meaningless. You did. What I am saying tho is tho 10+ defenses are against WHO!?!?!?!?! Ortiz and Stiverne??! Cmon man stop playing around. You can lie to us if you want but remember we all have access to Wilder's boxrec. And my original point still stands proudly- look at who Wilder defended against and look at AJs opponents in that same time span and any unbiased fan of the sport will tell you AJ fought better opposition. Wilder was a heavyweight Andre Berto- alot of hype and marinara cans for opponents. His first "test" was Stiverne for crying out loud and then somehow Ortiz got propped up to be some great heavyweight even though his biggest win came against Jennings many moons ago smh...and don't call me a Joshua fanboy either. I'm a Stan of the sport as a whole.


And nobody ducked nobody. It's all business man. If it was up to the fighters they'd fight anyone anywhere. But their teams hold them back to maximize revenue. This basic Boxing 102 knowledge bro.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Shameful? Either Fury is the best or he isnt..lol

"Shameful" was in reference to Wilders outlandish excuses after he got sodomized by Fury.

And Fury is def #1 heavyweight right now. Wilder will have a chance to change that tho in 11 days so we'll see. Can't wait for that fight!

 

[patscorpio]

Wilder was a heavyweight Andre Berto- alot of hype and marinara cans for opponents.

...

 

[R=G]

"Shameful" was in reference to Wilders outlandish excuses after he got sodomized by Fury.

And Fury is def #1 heavyweight right now. Wilder will have a chance to change that tho in 11 days so we'll see. Can't wait for that fight!

Joshua had excuses..
Fury is spinning and pushing the Wilder fight back...his father is claiming he's either not ready or he'll end Wilder's career. Alot of nitpicking.

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Joshua had excuses..
Fury is spinning and pushing the Wilder fight back...his father is claiming he's either not ready or he'll end Wilder's career. Alot of nitpicking.

Joshua had excuses?!? Are you really trynna compare Wilders litany of conspiracy theories to justify his loss to what AJ said???


And despite all the delays, the fight is STILL happening in 11 days bro. First Fury caught covid and then his newborn daughter was very ill...both of those "excuses" pale in comparison to egg weights on gloves, spiked water bottles, overweight costumes and double agent trainers lmao