CHICAGOrilla
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It's crazy that this nikka was only 25 when he passed. He did so much in such a short amount of time
Today marks the 20 years passing of the GOAT
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MooseMouthMthafuga
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if the mods dont stick this shyt
I don't know what it is, but every hip hop site I've been on, the mods have always been lukewarm on Pac.
It's an interesting psychology.The mod personality type.
But normally the staffs are east coast based, tho
Sticky this, this the goat we talking about 
Nomad1
Tupac KONY and GOAT
Mac Casper
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Nobody wants to discuss this in my thread so I'll post it here and see if I can get any thoughts on the subject
Columbo
Lieutenant
20 years? Damn im 
KravenMorehead™
Barrel Brothers.®
R.I.P. 
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
He wasn't my goat, but r.I.p.
20 years is a long time. I couldn't imagine what that's like
20 years is a long time. I couldn't imagine what that's like
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
I think it was all him.The wild "Thug Life" side and the scholarly, damn near docile side.As he said in the interview, it was him, but it was just "Blown up"
Personally, I think it was genetic, and not an act.The more you learn about Afeni, you see just how much Pac was a reflection of his mom.She was the same way.Ultra articulate, charming.Could literally talk herself out of a 300 year bid.
But she was a beast.Even she had a "gangsta" side to her.From wanting to "crush white bytches"in prison for asking her how to get with a black man..Talking shyt to cops.... to the way she dominated the other wives in her polygamous marriage to Lumumba Shakur.She would literally come home and beat their ass if they didn't have dinner ready/the house clean.Like a tyrant when it came to order.
But when you see that small, gentle lil lady, with the big ol warm smile...you think she's so sweet, huh?
Sounds like Death Row Pac, right? Knocking out studio engineers....riding on Dre for procrastinating on beats and not supporting Snoop during his murder trial....Sam Sneed...Even Snoop was about to get a few knots upside his head had Pac lived a lil longer.A tyrant when it came to order.I think that's what Suge loved about Pac.
Mac Casper
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A lot of great points I overlooked . . I think he aspired to that behind him as evident by his later interviews. He said he'd hope that one day people would look at him and be like "remember when he was bad?" And also he mentioned political aspirations. He mentioned pulling back from music and making an album once every 4 years that would "mean something" . . Can you imagine a project that Tupac worked on for 4 years, when you see how quickly he did All Eyez on Me and the Makaveli album . . that's insane to think about
He mentioned aspirations to write for other artists that people wouldn't expect him to be able to work with . . he mentioned Alanis Morissette, who was the only person competing with him in sales that year
Then there was that interview that I can't find where he talked about quitting rap. I believe it was a TV sit down interview . . not the Tabitha Soren one (insane that I remember the names of people that interviewed him) . . but in it he says he's getting tired of it and it's old and he prefers acting.
I think he offered a lot to the world in 25 years. He gave the world a lot more than he took from it and not many people can ever say that, he left behind a legacy and through his work many generations from now there will be young people exposed to the mind and message of a 25 year old man, It's really existential to think about how we have all this energy of a 25 year old trapped in time and encapsulated in a body work that'll be around for many generations to come
With the creative output he had during his 4 years in the music business it's hard to imagine he had much time to enjoy his success. It's like he was driven by a sense of purpose to leave behind a message
Mac Casper
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Tupac and Jim Belushi interview together . . they start off giving the interview some shyt, sounds like she might of be one of those hard ass journalists
Looks like him and Jim Belushi got along well
He seemed happiest when involved in acting
That movie is so fukking good. gridlockd and juice are better but I love that movie.
Mac Casper
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I think Gridlock'd was a great role for him . . he apparently really wanted that role because he was sick of the Birdy type roles that basically depicted him as a thug.
It would've been great to see his acting career progress, I would've really liked to see him involved in a Quentin Tarantino movie, and perhaps even collaborate on the story. He worked with Tim Roth, who's a regular with Tarantino so perhaps that might of been in the cards for him