"Evil bytch/You the reason nikkas be beefin/ Hoe move on"...
Nas dissed Carmen plenty subliminally on Stillmatic and Gods Son...
As for the Battle I don't see how one can say there was no winner when one of the rappers admitted LOSING on wax. When the individual admits that they lost they that's pretty much a wrap...
Because there are 4 ways to win a rap beef.
1. You outclass them on wax. You record a diss that they can't recover from, you expose them, you do what they do better, or you do something that they can't respond to.
2. You do something outside of a record that destroys their career, makes people think less of them, or plant an idea in the head of the masses that make people think differently of them.
3. Kill them.
4. Blackball them
Nas did number one. Nas achieved this by having Jay react the way he did to ether. IF Jay didn't react like a bytch MAYBE he could have turned the tide. But he didn't so this option was gone.
BUT, Jay made me personally think less of Nas as a person. I just can't respect a man that lets himself be disrespected like that and just takes it on the chin. Not only that, but he wound up working for him and he is close to him now. I'm happy they made up or whatever, but you know that shyt is still between them.
They both did a lot of things for the second option. Like I said, they fed the stans ammunition for a whole decade now, but Jay easily gets the edge for doing something that is documented and not just speculated like a lot of Nas' lines