Tim Scott to Be Named for Empty South Carolina Senate Seat

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I don't know, and I don't really care. Both parties are basically the same. They're all corporate shills.

That's fine, but you made a claim you couldn't defend.

 

[KingpinOG]

Those are ideological positions of principle that many people are in agreeance with as generalized policy in a vacuum. What good specific policy proposals do you hear from Republicans?

Republicans don't have specific proposals to cut taxes and lower spending?

Huh?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Listen I know HL is a big liberal circle-jerk, but I think things like smaller government and less taxes aren't out of the mainstream. They just put tea party morons like this in office.

smaller government and less taxes aren't exclusive to "republicans"

get that talking point out of your head

I'm from LI, we pay the 2nd highest amount of taxes than anyone in this country....you don't think we believe less taxes are the way to go? Do you think us looking to cap taxes makes us republican? Or does it make us a bunch of angry muhfukkas tired of paying unnecessarily high ass taxes?

Stop it.

Secondly everyone likes smaller lanes of bureaucracy. But y'all believe that there is a direct relationship between smaller government and efficiency. You fail to realize and articulate, that efficient organizations composed of efficient workers create an efficient product. This goes for a global corporations or a mom and pop stores.

You're still stuck on titles and rhetoric.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

That's fine, but you made a claim you couldn't defend.

I defended you liberals on the first page of this thread. You're asking me to defend political stances I don't stand for in the first place.

The average American isn't going to notice a difference whether Obama or a Republican is in office (which was pretty much my whole point.)

Obama will tell you we're living in a community.We're one nation, we're all one. But I realized this years ago, we're living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country, it's just a business.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

smaller government and less taxes aren't exclusive to "republicans"

get that talking point out of your head

I'm from LI, we pay the 2nd highest amount of taxes than anyone in this country....you don't think we believe less taxes are the way to go? Do you think us looking to cap taxes makes us republican? Or does it make us a bunch of angry muhfukkas tired of paying unnecessarily high ass taxes?

Stop it.

Secondly everyone likes smaller lanes of bureaucracy. But y'all believe that there is a direct relationship between smaller government and efficiency. You fail to realize and articulate, that efficient organizations composed of efficient workers create an efficient product. This goes for a global corporations or a mom and pop stores.

You're still stuck on titles and rhetoric.

By LI do you mean Long Island?

I'm with you, markets are more efficient then government. All I know is my taxes are getting raised under Obama (who I voted for) and I'm not even rich.

I know it's easy to be for raising taxes when you're from the Hamptons and your parents have the money.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

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[NZA]

see the thing is, republicans have some good ideas. but they've just gone way too far to the right. most people would get behind them fiscally, but they just run dudes like this.

most people would not get behind them fiscally. we just had a referendum on that, and that side lost

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I defended you liberals on the first page of this thread. You're asking me to defend political stances I don't stand for in the first place.

The average American isn't going to notice a difference whether Obama or a Republican is in office (which was pretty much my whole point.)

Obama will tell you we're living in a community.We're one nation, we're all one. But I realized this years ago, we're living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country, it's just a business.

You said the Republicans have some good ideas. You haven't been to say what those good ideas are.

You said something vague about lower taxes and smaller government. Everybody wants taxes to be as low and government to be as small as possibly needed according to them, and lower taxes and smaller government are by no means the sole province of the Republican party. Obama and the Dem-controlled Congress cut taxes. The rate of increase in spending under Obama has been the slowest since the Eisenhower administration, and he's cut things that range from waste in the healthcare system to heating for poor families. And he proposed cuts of $400 billion to Medicare in his initial fiscal cliff offering.

Taxes right now in terms of rates and revenue generated are at one of the lowest points in U.S. history right now. Almost half the country is paying no federal income tax. I don't see how cutting taxes would be a prudent idea right now in the wake of this deficit.

You can talk about liberals this and that, this place being a liberal circle jerk, both parties are the same or whatever, but I was just asking you to defend your initial claim that Republicans have good ideas and maybe cite specifically what those good ideas were.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

All I know is my taxes are getting raised under Obama (who I voted for) and I'm not even rich.

I assume you're talking about if we go over the fiscal cliff. Are you really blaming Obama for that?

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

I assume you're talking about if we go over the fiscal cliff. Are you really blaming Obama for that?

no breh, I'm talking capital gains and dividend tax rates.

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

You said the Republicans have some good ideas. You haven't been to say what those good ideas are.

You said something vague about lower taxes and smaller government. Everybody wants taxes to be as low and government to be as small as possibly needed according to them, and lower taxes and smaller government are by no means the sole province of the Republican party. Obama and the Dem-controlled Congress cut taxes. The rate of increase in spending under Obama has been the slowest since the Eisenhower administration, and he's cut things that range from waste in the healthcare system to heating for poor families. And he proposed cuts of $400 billion to Medicare in his initial fiscal cliff offering.

Taxes right now in terms of rates and revenue generated are at one of the lowest points in U.S. history right now. Almost half the country is paying no federal income tax. I don't see how cutting taxes would be a prudent idea right now in the wake of this deficit.

You can talk about liberals this and that, this place being a liberal circle jerk, both parties are the same or whatever, but I was just asking you to defend your initial claim that Republicans have good ideas and maybe cite specifically what those good ideas were.

I think me and you think a lot more similar then you believe.

Like I said I know if mitt was in office I'd be paying less in taxes. Now part of these taxes I'm paying come from capital gains/dividend taxes. There's a specific example, Mitt wanted to get rid of capital gains tax.

Obama loves big government and he believes in it. And that's fine. I feel the government just gets in the way especially of small business and the private sector in general. All I hear from democrats is, "this group doesn't pay enough, we need to raise taxes."

Listen like I said they're (reps and dems) all the same. Yeah I know a lot of the deficit is Bush's fault. And by that I'm referring to your talking points about Obama not increasing spending....still they're running yearly trillion dollar deficits to support the government. Is it not big enough? Also, are you proposing we tax lower incomes since half the country is not paying income taxes?