"ThunderCats Roar" @Cartoon Network in 2019

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Now that I watch that short video. I see why its soo fukkin gay...its a room full of craft beer drinking, plaid shirt fakkits :snoop:

you note the real quick clip of everyone in the room...everyone is smiling..the ONLY brotha is like :wtb:
you get it.

I do some contract work in animation. and i'm 95% sure i know someone that works on that.. and youre super close to being spot on. it's who's siting down making these things and their "interesting perspectives" on shyt.
 

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@Atsym Sknyfs a good analogy of this would be flintstones kids and a pup named scooby doo.

My mom loved flintstones when she was a kid. Adored it. That was her show. And she liked scooby doo too. So when I was a kid we got flintstones kids and a pup named Scooby-Doo and she wasn’t thrilled with them lol but she knew it was for me not her. She let it rock.

And to your point I’m not saying kids will definitely love the shyt that’s out. I loved Johnny quest and bugs bunny more than a lot of stuff that came out when we were kids and they were older than dirt then. If your kids fukk with the stuff you grew up on then that’s dope. shyt I hope when I have kids it’s the same way. I’m just saying as an adult I won’t poo poo something when I know it’s not for me to poo poo and it’s not made for me. I’d want my kids to get the same chance to enjoy something for them the way I did and if they love it great. If not? That’s great too. I can always put them on to stuff the way my mom and dad put me on to stuff they loved as kids.

I think there's a difference though. When I was a kid, the old Flintstones and Scooby Doo cartoons were played on TV every day after school. I had no idea they were made before I was even born.

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that ThunderCats is still on the radar of the kids in the target demographic for this. So, why remake that particular show and aim to piss off they only people who know/care about the original show? Don't they know they'll provoke a backlash like the "Jem and the Holograms" movie?
 

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I think there's a difference though. When I was a kid, the old Flintstones and Scooby Doo cartoons were played on TV every day after school. I had no idea they were made before I was even born.

I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that ThunderCats is still on the radar of the kids in the target demographic for this. So, why remake that particular show and aim to piss off they only people who know/care about the original show? Don't they know they'll provoke a backlash like the "Jem and the Holograms" movie?

I don't think they're worried about a backlash because kids can just gravitate to something. Like with power rangers, I didn't have anything prior to draw from. I wasn't a Voltron fan and hadn't seen any parts of voltron till after power rangers. But I watched cause it looked cool. Same with ninja turtles. Kids don't always need a thing to exists to start watching it or need an entry way. When I was a kid, I just discovered shyt. And if liked it, like Cro or Cowboys of Moo Mesa, I kept watching. If not, I stopped. At a certain point, you can't worry about a backlash from people who will more than likely be working, on their way home, or doing adult shyt when your cartoon is airing.

true, look at avengers EMH vs Avegers assmeble, there was no need for disney to water that series down that much. you cant tell me kids would prefer assemble, I think what people are trying to say is, you dont have to water a show down to that length to appeal to kids. and just cause I am older it doesnt mean I cant tell the difference between a good kids show and whatever the this thundercats is about to be.. But again you are right and have to realize they arent creating these shows for us and we have to sit back and wait for young justice season 3 to get our fix

I completely agree you don't have to water it down but that's also not what's happening. The avengers example you mentioned? Joe Quesada said Avengers Assemble and Ultimate spider-man were made for kids. His goal was to make kid shows so that's what they produced.

A couple years ago, Paul Dini was on a podcast talking about a change in the way cartoons would be. He said the tone would be different than what people are used to and a lot of it, much like before, is based on what toys sell, but also the cartoons that do really well with kids (from a ratings standpoint) are less action-oriented and more comedic. The guy who created Beware the Batman said the same thing when he was begging fans to keep watching that show before it got cancelled. He was all gloom and doom about it, saying action cartoons would cease to exist.

With all that said, with two guys who work in the industry speaking on it, it doesn't surprise me that Thundercats would come back as more comedic because that's where the ball lies right now, for better or for worse. shyt, the fact Dragon Ball Super comes on Saturday nights rather than weekday afternoons like Dragon Ball Z tells us all we need to know regarding where networks believe the money is. Young Justice season 3 is going to be on a paid service, which is another indication of the state of things.
 

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you really shouldnt. it looked good, but the story was trash
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Should have kept the 2011 version. in any case, it's pretty clear already how this dance is going to go across cartoons in general. Anything overtly violent, gender "normative", and stereotypical implicit racist stuff will not see daylight.

Bluto used to smack the crap outta Olive Oyl, Yosemite Sam toted guns like nobody's business, GI Joe had more gun/blaster fire than a Star Wars movie even though they couldn't aim for crap, Batman TAS/JL/JLU/OG Teen Titans had actual fighting and property damage and villains plotting nefarious schemes, all of that is out.

You're going to get spoon fed your Teletubbies-level applesauce over and over from here on out.
 

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other than art, what did you think was good about it?

I liked the series the only thing I didn’t like was Tigra being far superior to Lion-O. I liked the fact Lion was forced to grown into being worthy of being leader unlike the OG series where he was a kid then woke up a grown man with superhuman strength and the sword of omens lol. The story was more adventure oriented and wasn’t just a bunch of stand alone episodes. I took the nostalgia glasses off with this series it was easily better than the campy one I grew up with.
 

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I liked the series the only thing I didn’t like was Tigra being far superior to Lion-O. I liked the fact Lion was forced to grown into being worthy of being leader unlike the OG series where he was a kid then woke up a grown man with superhuman strength and the sword of omens lol. The story was more adventure oriented and wasn’t just a bunch of stand alone episodes. I took the nostalgia glasses off with this series it was easily better than the campy one I grew up with.

He never grows into being a leader. Everytime they give lion o some sort of growth, they roll it back on him and he's just ineffective again. Doesn't help that he has no sort of mentorship with panthro or the fact that he's constantly undermined by tygra. It's like the writers were intent on making the character suffer. Especially with the cheetara and pumyra shyt
 

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He never grows into being a leader. Everytime they give lion o some sort of growth, they roll it back on him and he's just ineffective again. Doesn't help that he has no sort of mentorship with panthro or the fact that he's constantly undermined by tygra. It's like the writers were intent on making the character suffer. Especially with the cheetara and pumyra shyt
Before Pumyra turned on them Lion-O was starting to show some growth. A lot of him immaturity resulted from his rivalry with Pantro. It was following the typical anime trope of the tragic hero that has to overcome all including a friendly rival. It may have seemed off putting given the Lion-O would grew up with was an instant powerhouse he who was only naive the 1st 5 episodes. This Lion-O was growing into becoming Lord of the Thundercats. This version actually gave a reason for Mum-rah and the Mutants beefing with the Thundercats. It didn’t get the time to develop the story fully or Lion-O character development :yeshrug: It’s almost like if DBZ ended with Goku on Snakeway and before even meeting King Kai. For what was available of this series was good too me :yeshrug:
 
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