This Trip Could Get Uglier Than A Master P Sneaker - Warriors [ADVANCE 4-1] (2) host Pelicans (6)

[Waterproof]

 

[Rigby.]

I gotta give Pels props they did all they could.

1. Rondo was very impactful in Games 1-3 (as much as he could be realistically), but was a net negative during the rest. Dude was probably your second best wing defender behind Jrue so it sucks being unable to play him
2. Jrue couldn’t go off for obvious reasons. Not to mention having to defend a top 10 player in the L who’s a foot taller than you
3. Boogie was one of the main forces that really seemed to be able to get his spots against GSW in recent memory. He’s excellent against Draymond, it would’ve likely took KD switching on him as the series progressed. That makes AD’s job easier (imo) w Dray on him vs KD. Not to mention all the other obv advantages with having a then fringe mvp candidate in your stable.

IDK their draft situation or cap (I know it’s fukked but that’s it), but if they can somehow get Mirotic to take a lil less than I think he’s shooting for and bank on DMC another getting offered anything outrageous, all they really need to do move this useless fukk Solomon Hill and do what they shoulda did and get a real 3 and D guy. Try to draft another if they got any picks. I hope the closest thing I got to a hometown squad figures it out

 

[Rigby.]

Media is about to be so disappointed with the WCF, I dont see the series going more than 5, but they are hyping it up like crazy

The league gonna show how much they respect Houston. If they take that GS phallus out they mouth and look at it objective, they’ll give Houston two games and make Dubs work for it

 

[CM_Burns]

NO never had a chance, CAC refs made sure of it in games 1 and 2.

 

[JayGatsby]

money green

 

[UserNameless]

The league gonna show how much they respect Houston. If they take that GS phallus out they mouth and look at it objective, they’ll give Houston two games and make Dubs work for it

2 game TOPS. But I can honestly see GS in 5.

 

[EarlyEarly]

They already gave him an extension

Of the series mane

 

[VegetasHairline]

 

[Rigby.]

2 game TOPS. But I can honestly see GS in 5.

GS will probably win in 5 with two Ws coming to the last possession

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Warriors never lost a game when Draymond had a triple double too

 

[Gizza]

All I gotta say is...Dubs in 5

keep jrue,rondo & obviously AD tweak the roster wit some shooters.

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

It's happened to ya'll before on the biggest stage. Quit acting like all 4 of ya'll top players haven't blew a 3-1 lead it's in ya'll DNA. Even James Harden haven't done that

Harden is a career playoff choke artist.. CP0 Bailed him out in that closet out game to the Jazz.. :Skipbreh:

 

[VegetasHairline]

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Greatest defensive mind in NBA history. Yeah, I said it. It had to be said.

Explain to me how it's "complete and utter bullshyt" when offensive schemes and gameplay, in general, is more advanced than ever before? Explain to me how it's "complete and utter bullshyt" when Draymond has broken that side of the floor; guarding multiple positions on nearly every single play, as well as calling out and directing traffic in accordance to which sets/plays the opposition is going to run - to a greater degree than anyone in NBA history?

I hate to break it to you, but I've already read that many years ago (in fact I've read many pieces/books from Wooden, Haubrich, Oakman, Brown etc around the defensive play and the historical markers of the game). The problem with that is, Bill played during an era where everything was ABC-123 in comparison to the algebraic topology that is the game today - sure he was the best mind during his era, but everything has evolved since then, with more information than ever before. The game has been layered and layered and layered many times over since Bill retired; defenses have countered offenses, offenses then countered those defenses, defenses then countered those offenses, and so on and so forth.

You take any of those 60s Celtics squads and put them against this current Warriors team, and Bill would think they were on some black magic shyt - he wouldn't have the basketball cognizance to be able to defend them, simply because he wouldn't have seen anything like it his life. Whereas if Draymond came up against the offenses from the 60s, he'd be able to blow up all their shyt, blindfolded.

Bowen and Payton never anchored a defense like Draymond does. Remind me, when did either of those guys protect the rim/paint, guard big men, switch on multiple players on any given play, direct their teammates to certain areas of the floor, cover up holes on any given play etc on the regular like Draymond does?



The closest player(s) in the last 10 years that are comparable are KG and Duncan, and even they didn't do the shyt that Green does on the defensive end (which is partly down to the fact that Draymond is allowed more freedom on that end than 99.9% of players that have played the game).

You just basically shytted on your entire argument with this. Here you're insinuating that Draymond has these "advantages" that Bill didn't have, yet in the same breath you're stating it's absurd to suggest that Draymond is a greater defensive mind than him, despite defending against faster, stronger, smarter players, more complex schemes, better coaching etc all with more defensive roles and more gameplay-success than Bill ever had.

There was an action in last night's game where Rondo dragged his man to the elbow (ball in-hand), Clark set a screen, Rondo funneled off and threw the ball to Jrue, Mirotic set a pinch-screen to release Clark (as a distraction), and Jrue threw the ball to AD in the mid/low-post - now while this was all happening, not only did Draymond stay in the vicinity wherever the ball was, not only did he move to the spots well before the ball even got there, but he shadowed every single player in that play, and forced them to give it to a player who was in the weakest position to score, rather than to a player who was in a more benefifical position to score. He basically coaxed the Pelicans into wasting all that time on the shot clock, only to end up forcing a tough, contested shot with the SC running out. It was the equivalent to a cat playing/torturing a mouse - he knew what they were going to do before they knew what they were going to do, and forced them to take a shot that he wanted them to take.

Bill was NOT doing that type of shyt when he was playing, mostly because the state of the game never allowed him to.

This wasn't just a standard throw the ball down to the mid/low-post play that you'd see in the 50s, 60s, 70s etc, this was an elaborate ploy by the Pelicans to get an open shot with 4-5 moving pieces - Draymond blew that entire shyt up. He even had Rondo looking like a dumb-dumb out there, and he's one of the smartest players to ever grace the court.



Again, shytting on your entire argument. First of all, you can't view it in that manner, you have to take everything in history as it is - you can't equalize player states from different eras by putting them all in the same frame. See: chaos theory.

I don't think there's anything to agree to disagree on - this isn't really something that's subjective. I don't see how that point is even relevant, even if Bill could recall specific plays as they happened from his past, it speaks more about his repetition-recall that we all naturally have as humans. It has little to do with the complexity and motor-capacity of the actual play.

Bill is a legend, that's not in question, but there are players who have a greater defensive mind than him because of the evolvement of the game. Just as there will probably be greater defensive minds than Draymond if the game continues to evolve.

@Dame Dash's Motor Oil



The curve. I'm a lifetime ahead of it.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

28 to 12 FT disparity..

How you go to the line 28 times and still get blow out by 20+?

You bytch ass Dubs haters suck a dikk

Isn't it funny how the narrative shifted from the Warriors benefiting from the officiating due to the FT disparity in this series (and for a paradox-kick, the Pelicans end up getting blown out by 20+ points, despite having twice the amount of FT attempts), but in the next series when the Rockets benefitted from the FT disparity, the Warriors were still seeming to be perceived as the ones of benefitting from the officiating.