This single tweet encapsulates everything wrong with mainstream hip hop these days

[JustCKing]

Even the prince of hip hop internet cac elitism would understand why the tweet is a problem and what it represents. He is aware of the issue, even though he contributes to it

That tweet doesn't express that though. If you'd posted a tweet along the lines of Kendrick Lamar being the poster child of Hip Hop for white people who don't like Hip Hop, then you'd have point.

That type of elitism doesn't just exist with white people though. Toure is the prime example of this.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

I understand the angle you're going with but to me that tweet is really just some tryhard shyt. Dude picked three staple, starter-pack type classics and tried to act like he's digging in the crates and putting people on to some obscure music.





These responses are exactly how I feel LMAO.



Ehh, I really don't think that is the case yet. We've (I mean heads on the coli, not you and I) mentioned this on this site a few times but R&B is the perfect way to spot a "culture vulture", rap is really all these cats know and that's where it stops for them when it comes to black music. Case in point the guy in the O.P. using Thriller as an example of "realizing how great other genres are".

Mannnnnn

Good looking out

One of the greatest threads in the history of the Coli and my exact point in the OP

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/r-b-and-soul-is-the-secret-kryptonite-to-hip-hop-culture-vultures.646817/

If there's users who find that thread confusing then nothing else needs to be said

S/o to @trillanova

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

That tweet doesn't express that though. If you'd posted a tweet along the lines of Kendrick Lamar being the poster child of Hip Hop for white people who don't like Hip Hop, then you'd have point.

That type of elitism doesn't just exist with white people though. Toure is the prime example of this.

Toure is a product of white elitism in hip hop journalism. He's just whitewashed. It doesn't start, or end with black people like him. There's no defending this

 

[L. Deezy]

Incoherent?


You have an incoherent mind


That word doesn't make sense in my context because im just joking. But yall nikkas just lack the capacity for critical thinking. Just in here exposing yourselves

And I know mental health more than you. Just off the strength of your statement. I work in the psych field. I live this. You're probably the same one that goes in threads about gossip saying

"Mental illness
"

nikkas who say that are mentally ill themselves. Mental illness is way more than just depression and schizophrenia. Technically everyone has something, no matter how small or easy to deal with. But ignorance is in the air everywhere on here

Lol..

You having a breakdown

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

Lol..

You having a breakdown

You're projecting. And ignorant. Moving on

 

[L. Deezy]

You're projecting. And ignorant. Moving on

Sentence has grammatical errors... lol

#mentalbreakdown

 

[JustCKing]

Toure is a product of white elitism in hip hop journalism. He's just whitewashed. It doesn't start, or end with black people like him. There's no defending this

What's to defend? It's a school of thought that's existed since the introduction of Hip Hop. A lot of us who grew up listening to Hip Hop had to sit through lectures of how Hip Hop wasn't music, that it was a fad, and that it was a negative influence. This wasn't criticisms from white people, it was from our parents, grandparents, and elders within the community.

There's people who would praise Common, but denounce Pac. We've all seen it.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

What's to defend? It's a school of thought that's existed since the introduction of Hip Hop. A lot of us who grew up listening to Hip Hop had to sit through lectures of how Hip Hop wasn't music, that it was a fad, and that it was a negative influence. This wasn't criticisms from white people, it was from our parents, grandparents, and elders within the community.

There's people who would praise Common, but denounce Pac. We've all seen it.

I'm saying, pointing out elitists from any other race besides Caucasian is futile. The others are byproducts of the single culprit

 

[JustCKing]

I'm saying, pointing out elitists from any other race besides Caucasian is futile. The others are byproducts of the single culprit

They aren't by products. If we want to point out the influence of white elitism in Hip Hop, that Twitter post wasn't a great example and it's an entirely separate discussion.

 

[Legal]

When you love music you don’t have to “take a step back” from it This conversation is probably for under 30 heads so I’ll just leave it here.

Yeah, the bolded is really the main point here. Some of the brehs around here need to log the fukk off occasionally, because they're so exposed to racist fukk shyt, that they start calling EVERYTHING racist fukk shyt, even when it's really just garden variety promo disguised as music snobbery. I mean, the blatant giveaway is that the tweet is subtly trying to suggest that the album in the middle (Soul,Present by Q, an album that just came out two days ago) is on the same level as the rest of them. shyt is meant to get people talking, and then ask, "What's the one in the middle?"

The sad reality is that the musical tastes of a lot of younger people are far more narrow than they were on previous generations, but honestly, that could be attributed more to the prevalence of music streaming services being the primary way they interact with music, as opposed to even the old blog system from the mid 2000s to early 2010s, or the days of legacy media being how people found music. Some of these young folks really do need someone to point out great music from past years and in other genres to even try it.

 

[JustCKing]

This is white elitism as it pertains to Hip Hop:

The conversation later segued to Cyrus’ newfound outlook on hip-hop following Kendrick Lamar’s DAMN. debut and why she decided to distance herself from the genre over the years. “But I also love that new Kendrick [Lamar] song [“Humble”]: ‘Show me somethin’ natural like a** with some stretch marks.’ I love that because it’s not ‘Come sit on my d**k, suck on my c**k.’ I can’t listen to that anymore,” she said. “That’s what pushed me out of the hip-hop scene a little. It was too much ‘Lamborghini, got my Rolex, got a girl on my c**k’ — I am so not that.”

Miley Cyrus Says She’s Over The Hip-Hop Scene, Shows Appreciation For Kendrick Lamar

Miley Cyrus is on a mission to reinvent her image, beginning with her new outlook on music which will presumably stray from her 2013 sound with hitmaker Mike WiLL Made-It.

www.vibe.com

^^^ it's white people making a generalization of all Hip Hop while pointing out that they like a rapper that THEY perceive doesn't fit the generalization.

 

[Obie Obie]

Yall want to cry about black men putting out murder music. Who is telling them go make this. Better yet, who is PAYING these brothas to make this music?

Think deep. The problem does not start with the projects. We didn't even create the projects. We were brought to the projects. shyt like this is too much to digest. It's easier to blame Kodak and King Von. And not Lyor Cohen and the millions of crackers of the past and present that have infested every positive and public thing related to black people

TL/DR: Youthful cacs on Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, Rolling Stone, Complex, etc are the byproduct of their ancestors' genocidal actions and intentions. Everything wrong with hip hop goes back to white people. The tweet in the OP is a microcosm of systemic racism, white privilege, and multi-generational issues related to black people

 

[JUSTIN HERBERT]

wait, op is the threadmaker of "Hip hop is alive - quality rappers" thread? YOU JUST AS CORNY AS THAT TWEET BREH. HOLY FUKK I CRINGE WHENEVER I SEE SOMEONE UP THAT THREAD.

 

[maxamusa]

Facts!!!
That analytics shyt ruined most of the essence in present day basketball. I remember the post and mid range games. Tactful, exciting basketball on both sides of the court. It was beautiful. Now everyone wants to chuck up 3s because of "advance numbers". But that's another topic

I could really make a whole comprehensive thread about the shyt cacs have ruined. It's not racism, it's objectively true. And even still, there would be posters acting like it's an imaginary issue

I get it I don't mean to de-rail...just saying there is a lot of alternatives to mainstream shyt.....and some of our own posters and creating some dope shyt to satisfy the demand from folk like yourself smell me

 

[trillanova]

Mannnnnn

Good looking out

One of the greatest threads in the history of the Coli and my exact point in the OP

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/r-b-and-soul-is-the-secret-kryptonite-to-hip-hop-culture-vultures.646817/

If there's users who find that thread confusing then nothing else needs to be said

S/o to @trillanova