This Myth That LeBron James Makes His Teammates Better.......

[TheNig]

these lakers fans need a hobbie in the off season

Your "hobbie" definitely ain't spelling.

 

[prophecypro]

So Laker fans dont want him in 2014 in other words?

 

[Born2BKing]

Didn't wade and Bron come into the league at the same time? Bron is his his prime but wade isn't?

Yeah and Yao Ming and Amare Stoudemire came in the year before. Arenas came in two years before. Ben Gordon came in the year after.Darko Miličić came in the same year as bron. Are they in their prime too breh?

 

[yaaa_mad]

Your "hobbie" definitely ain't spelling.

you may be right. my point still stands.

 

[TheNig]

you may be right. my point still stands.

I'm a Laker fan and the point is this...


Wade and Bosh are playing like unadulterated shyt.

 

[yaaa_mad]

I'm a Laker fan and the point is this...


Wade and Bosh are playing like unadulterated shyt.

Can't argue with that. My point is Lakers fans need not worry about LeBron James and his ability to make others better. Heat are about to win back to back titles and Lakers are in complete disarray.

 

[chuckifubuck]

I dont want anyone else puting this shyt on lebron. Wade played half the second qusrter with him on the bench and didnt do shyt

 

[nieman]

I think this is because LeBron is horrible at playing off the ball as a superstar. He needs the ball and he needs it for 20 of the 24 seconds. As a result, he reduces most of his teammates to role players. Basically the only way LeBron can be successful is to be the only guy dominating the ball. Kobe on the other hand can play both on the ball and off the ball. How many times you see Kobe tell his teammates to post-up Pau on the wing? He does it many times especially when Pau has it going.

The only time LeBron has never been the focus of his team was 2011 and we all saw how he pouted and fizzled in the finals. He's basically forced the Heat to cower to his will. And now they're basically a glorified version of the Cavs. Because he's reduced all his teammates to jumpshooters, he now has to live or die by their jumpers when playing great defensive teams like the Pacers.

Exactly. I've been saying for the past few years that it was going to be difficult for them to build a team around Lebron because he just isn't effective playing off the ball. I compared it to AI, in that they would have to have a team full of defenders, rebounders and hustle guys a d now shooters but no other ballhandlers. He really can't play with a post player either, because so much of his game is based on driving. It renders him useless.

 

[theGoldmangod]

I'll agree that Bosh aint getting his downlow. But if Wade doesn't demand the ball when he should be the first option with Bron on the bench, THAT'S ON HIM.

Again, before he took over the 3rd quarter, lebron wasn't handling the ball like that. There were big chunks in most of these games where lebron just stood around the wing and didn't touch the ball or he handled it for 3-4 seconds before handing it off.

This isn't what you making it out to be, with lebron handling the ball every single possession and either scoring or making the final pass, that only started up in the 3rd quarter last night. Wade gets the ball at the top of the key and he stands around before passing it off, I'm guessing because he's not confident he can get to the hoop anymore. Wade only has 1-2 plays a game where he actually penetrates and does some oldschool Dwade shyt. Reggie even been noticing that the past few games Wade has almost been going through the motions, not playing agressive at all.

I actually agree with most of this, especially the first paragraph. :meh: I considered Wade a bytch the day he accepted being a sidekick and stopped being aggressive for LeBron's sake. And yeah, its actually a lot about confidence for him now. He knows he's not going to get the call and he's no longer confident he can finish.

But you keep talking like because LeBron isn't handling the ball Wade or Bosh is. Or as if them handling the ball more would change that they aren't getting the same type of opportunities. Did you watch the game? Wade is positioned in the corner now. If you watched the Heat before you know that was never where he used to be. Meanwhile LeBron still gets everything from the top and gets a clearout whenever he wants it to drive. That's a good explanation of why his numbers haven't changed at all. But its a different system for the other two.

And how exactly is the offense responsible for that? The only nikka who touches the ball more than him is Bron. He has opportunities. If he was healthy there is no way he would go 11 games in a row with < 20 pts with minuts he's playing. They are running the same shyt they ran last year when Wade was incosistent as fukk but still had his break out games. Only difference is he isn't having the break out games. That's on him, not the offense. Same with the shooters. They are getting the same looks, they just aren't knocking them down.

Okay breh, so would you explain to me this suspicous trend of players becoming inconsistent around him on all his teams? They went so far as to call this team the Miami Cavaliers tonight. What a strange coincidence that two all stars fell out of their prime together right at the same time and look just as terrible as the role players that Bron played with in Cleveland. Can you explain this phenomenon and how it is somehow completely unrelated to LeBron?

You stans think I'm hating on LeBron but I'm not. If anything its a coaching problem because whoever coaches him lets him take the team by the nuts and disregard what might benefit any other player.

 

[theGoldmangod]

I'll agree that Bosh aint getting his downlow. But if Wade doesn't demand the ball when he should be the first option with Bron on the bench, THAT'S ON HIM.

Again, before he took over the 3rd quarter, lebron wasn't handling the ball like that. There were big chunks in most of these games where lebron just stood around the wing and didn't touch the ball or he handled it for 3-4 seconds before handing it off.

This isn't what you making it out to be, with lebron handling the ball every single possession and either scoring or making the final pass, that only started up in the 3rd quarter last night. Wade gets the ball at the top of the key and he stands around before passing it off, I'm guessing because he's not confident he can get to the hoop anymore. Wade only has 1-2 plays a game where he actually penetrates and does some oldschool Dwade shyt. Reggie even been noticing that the past few games Wade has almost been going through the motions, not playing agressive at all.

I actually agree with most of this, especially the first paragraph. I considered Wade a bytch the day he accepted being a sidekick and stopped being aggressive for LeBron's sake. And yeah, its actually a lot about confidence for him now. He knows he's not going to get the call and he's no longer confident he can finish.

But you keep talking like because LeBron isn't handling the ball Wade or Bosh is. Or as if them handling the ball more would change that they aren't getting the same type of opportunities. Did you watch the game? Wade is positioned in the corner now. If you watched the Heat before you know that was never where he used to be. Meanwhile LeBron still gets everything from the top and gets a clearout whenever he wants it to drive. That's a good explanation of why his numbers haven't changed at all. But its a different system for the other two.

And how exactly is the offense responsible for that? The only nikka who touches the ball more than him is Bron. He has opportunities. If he was healthy there is no way he would go 11 games in a row with < 20 pts with minuts he's playing. They are running the same shyt they ran last year when Wade was incosistent as fukk but still had his break out games. Only difference is he isn't having the break out games. That's on him, not the offense. Same with the shooters. They are getting the same looks, they just aren't knocking them down.

Okay breh, so would you explain to me this suspicous trend of players becoming inconsistent garbage around him on all his teams? They went so far as to call this team the Miami Cavaliers tonight. What a strange coincidence that two all stars fell out of their primes together right at the same time and look just as terrible as the role players that Bron played with in Cleveland.

You stans think I'm hating on LeBron but I'm not. If anything its a coaching problem because whoever coaches him lets him take the team by the nuts and disregard what might benefit any other player.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Yeah and Yao Ming and Amare Stoudemire came in the year before. Arenas came in two years before. Ben Gordon came in the year after.Darko Mili&#269;i&#263; came in the same year as bron. Are they in their prime too breh?

I don't know. You tell me. You brought it up. You're acting like Wade is 35 years old.

 

[FTBS]

Okay breh, so would you explain to me this suspicous trend of players becoming inconsistent around him on all his teams? They went so far as to call this team the Miami Cavaliers tonight. What a strange coincidence that two all stars fell out of their prime together right at the same time and look just as terrible as the role players that Bron played with in Cleveland. Can you explain this phenomenon and how it is somehow completely unrelated to LeBron?

You stans think I'm hating on LeBron but I'm not. If anything its a coaching problem because whoever coaches him lets him take the team by the nuts and disregard what might benefit any other player.

How about you explain how they weren't this bad the first two years together?

I could see if Bron was a super-aggressive ball hog. But the nikka is unselfish, to a fault at times, and these nikkas have more than their share of opportunities to do shyt and they just haven't in this series. I am at Bosh camping out at the 3pt line. I am equally at him avg. 3 reb per game as well.

 

[Born2BKing]

I don't know. You tell me. You brought it up. You're acting like Wade is 35 years old.

Ohh you're a troll

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Ohh you're a troll

How old is Wade? Barely 31. You're going to sit here and tell me hes out of his prime in his 10th season? Just back in October you were saying he was better than Kobe.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

How about you explain how they weren't this bad the first two years together?

I could see if Bron was a super-aggressive ball hog. But the nikka is unselfish, to a fault at times, and these nikkas have more than their share of opportunities to do shyt and they just haven't in this series. I am at Bosh camping out at the 3pt line. I am equally at him avg. 3 reb per game as well.

Just goes to show, lebron doesn't improve his teammates games. He takes from them.