This is exactly why no black man should want to be a Libertarian

[Trajan]

Black people can call themselves whatever they want...Libertarians...Feminists....Communists end of the day you're not getting judged on your political beliefs

It's not socialists or libertarians kicking your ass....it's cacs. You should ride with whatever gives the best result for black folk in each situation rather than holding dogmatically to an ideology.

I see that sometimes on this forum with posters like @DEAD7 who hold fast to a position even when it's clearly detrimental to black ppl just because it's ''libertarian''.

 

[DEAD7]

What does "peaceful" have to do about anything?

And what do you mean by "force?"

If you want to live in a community, you must cede certain "freedoms" for the sake of the collective good.

Its immoral to initiate force against peaceful people, and doing so should be avoided as much as possible... seems simple enough.

Peaceful meaning non violent/not involved in any violence or aggression.
Force meaning violence, aggression or coercion.

 

[DEAD7]

I see that sometimes on this forum with posters like @DEAD7 who hold fast to a position even when it's clearly detrimental to black ppl just because it's ''libertarian''.

Example?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Peaceful meaning non violent/not involved in any violence or aggression.
Force meaning violence, aggression or coercion.

You're being vague.

No one is saying shyt about getting your door kicked in.

 

[DEAD7]

You're being vague.

No one is saying shyt about getting your door kicked in.

Lets start over then, what specifically makes no sense to you?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Lets start over then, what specifically makes no sense to you?

You tried to say "force" is a bad thing when you ask people to contribute to being a part of a society.

 

[DEAD7]

You tried to say "force" is a bad thing when you ask people to contribute to being a part of a society.

Force isnt needed to get people to contribute... this belief that it is where we disagree.

Essentially you are saying(please correct me if im wrong) people dont care about each other so we need to force them too... i disagree with this for several reasons.

 

[Broke Wave]

Libertarianism is stupid and fallacious. They literally believe in a world where a corporation can dump toxic waste into your drinking water and your best bet is to sue them. I know dead7 is gonna try and expound on what I've said but don't believe him. They believe in a world with no environmental regulations. That's why there isn't a single libertarian on earth that doesn't deny climate science. From the Cato foundation to the Koch's there is not one that agrees with scientists. Even conservatives in some factions are pro science.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Force isnt needed to get people to contribute... this belief that it is where we disagree.

Essentially you are saying(please correct me if im wrong) people dont care about each other so we need to force them too... i disagree with this for several reasons.

Yes. This is precisely what I'm saying.

There has to be a guarantee that a certain standard is upheld.

The more people there are, the less inherent this altruism stretches.

 

[DEAD7]

Libertarianism is stupid and fallacious. They literally believe in a world where a corporation can dump toxic waste into your drinking water and your best bet is to sue them. I know dead7 is gonna try and expound on what I've said but don't believe him. They believe in a world with no environmental regulations. That's why there isn't a single libertarian on earth that doesn't deny climate science. From the Cato foundation to the Koch's there is not one that agrees with scientists. Even conservatives in some factions are pro science.

As opposed to what? You sue them now...

 

[DEAD7]

Yes. This is precisely what I'm saying.

There has to be a guarantee that a certain standard is upheld.

The more people there are, the less inherent this altruism stretches.

We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

Now moving towards compromise, there are ways to ensure public goods while being less coercive/intrusive/immoral about it, and that is the conversation I would like to have

 

[DEAD7]

I have yet to hear how libertarianism is anti-black?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

Now moving towards compromise, there are ways to ensure public goods while being less coercive/intrusive/immoral about it, and that is the conversation I would like to have

There actually aren't because you're just relying on people coming to the same conclusions as you...and that doesn't happen.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I have yet to hear how libertarianism is anti-black?

If you're a minority of any sort, libertarianism is a terrible thing.

 

[DEAD7]

If you're a minority of any sort, libertarianism is a terrible thing.

So you dont know how, but it is...

Fair enough i suppose, this is a left leaning board.