This is exactly why KD needed Steph on his team

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KD should have stated his azz in GSW that team was cheat code.

He kinda fukked up his legacy reading into his hype and wanting to be the man.

Great player but he doesnt have that dog in him to carry a mediocre supporting cast.
Definitely agree with last paragraph. Even Bron who gotten and gets shytted on a lot carried his teams in his prime especially those Cavs teams to the Finals. KD couldn't even get there with the nets and his azz got swept last season.

So much for saying KD better than Bron. Maybe should say KD plus Steph and GS is better than Bron.
 

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I doubt I could name 25 players better than prime KD. His skill set is more than suitable to lead a squad without another all nba type guy.

You got Jayson Tatum’s and Jimmy Butler type guys leading their teams to finals.
You're right, you can't name 25. You could likely name 15, and maybe push it to 20. And he's had All-NBA teammates all his career and can't go far without the one who is arguably Top 10 ever. His skill set is in fact in need of another player that level, preferably a guard.
Play their cards right and they’re going to have better careers than KD.
Eh, as much as I want Jimmy to get his flowers, I'm not seeing a way for him to creep on Top 15 All-Time status
That herb ain't better than Dr. J or Dirk

He's 25-30
He's better than Dirk.
 

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I’m gonna get heat for this but Butler is just a straight up smarter player than KD.

KD is more skilled in damn near every aspect of basketball but Butler is better at reading defenses more than one rotation deep. The reason GS worked for him so well is that his playmaking duties were drastically simplified and he could focus almost entirely on getting buckets against single coverage.
this is exactly it

KD doesnt spend enough time in the film room
 

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If you don't watch basketball much, that's on you. :ufdup:
Been watching kd since he was at texas. No one over 6’10 that has ever played the game got a better handle than kd. He got the dc/pg Ai crossover down pat. His hesi into a jumper is perfect. We’ve never seen someone with this length go left to right or right to left like kd.
 

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Been watching kd since he was at texas. No one over 6’10 that has ever played the game got a better handle than kd. He got the dc/pg Ai crossover down pat. His hesi into a jumper is perfect. We’ve never seen someone with this length go left to right or right to left like kd.
That’s great, I’ve watched KD since he was in high school playing with Grevis Vasquez.

He has great handles for an almost 7 footer.

For a guard, his handles are mid and it’s why he gets a lot of turnovers. He dribbles high and wide which a lot of shorter defenders tend to punish him for when they get in his space.
 

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I've seen kd been a good playmaker

In the playoffs as the number one option? I’ve seen him be ok and passable but he’s not a playmaker that can dissect defenses.

Been watching kd since he was at texas. No one over 6’10 that has ever played the game got a better handle than kd. He got the dc/pg Ai crossover down pat. His hesi into a jumper is perfect. We’ve never seen someone with this length go left to right or right to left like kd.

I feel like this a difference in perspective. He’s using handle in its totality meaning he’s including things like ball security, ability to dribble through tight spaces/traffic, etc and not just limited to his offensive bag.

KD’s bag is damn near unlimited in one on one situations but his bag can be muted by forcing him to put the ball on the floor in tight spaces where he struggles with ball security.
 

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