This Country has the highest rate of out-of-wedlock babies in the World…and its 94% White

[151_Pr00f]

Iceland is a wealthy country, the White supremacy system is taking care of them, and the fathers are still taking care of the children and the mother too, so white women don't have the same problem being a single mother in a white supremacy system. But black women don't have a patriarchy system that protect her like the white women, and most of the time the black man don't take care of his child, so a lot of black mother live and raise their childs in a poor environnement with less ressources than the white woman, that's the big difference. Don't try to compare white women and black women because they don't have the same privileges.

Yeah ultimately its not fair to compare the two because African American families have always had to fight against white terrorism and disenfranhisement

 

[Saiyajin]

This is narrowing the issue in the US and skirting the actual problem in the black community. The problem isn't simply marriage, it's non-involved parents, particularly black men not sticking around. Mix in poverty and lack of stability and you have a recipe for disaster.

If the black community had male and females having babies in an otherwise healthy relationship and both parents outside of on paper are in a partnership in raising kids, then it would be a better situation.

This isn't what is happening and we have an epidemic of single mothers raising fukked up kids without a male role model around to help and to cover shortcomings.

Let's stop bullshytting and lying to ourselves.Instead focus on presenting solutions which seems to be absent a lot of times instead of playing petty games of tit for tat. Who gives a fukk about white people. Does everything black people do have to be decided on how it contrasts with whites? I hate this thinking because it's just an elaborate form of kicking the can down the road.

dont forget the systemic targeting of young black males by the justice system that not only incarcerates fathers and separates families for years, but afterwards makes it impossible to find decent employment to be able to provide for a family

a Woman can't raise a Man, women don't understand concepts like honor, loyalty, self-sacrifice, duty and most importantly pride. because thats all developed in masculine enviornments. Im not saying women arent capable of being loyal or honorable, im saying they cant comprehend how vital those things are to a man. Most women consider those BAD traits, they think its illogical for a man's pride to factor into his decisions and that swallowing your pride is a good thing.



one of the reasons why I believe in Islam is because it outlines strictly the expectations of a man (and women) and it matches up with what I've learned throughout my life. In society its becoming controversial for men to act like men and women to act like women ,

there's gonna be a lot of criticism towards Islam regarding this, when this gender fluid shyt is accepted as mainstream and people will try to completely get rid of the distinct roles of Men and Women

Muslims will flat out refuse tho .

 

[FSP]

The problem I have with this argument is that you are adding your own interpretation to the data. How can we draw the conclusion that fathers are not involved in their childrens lives when all we have to go by is the rate at which they have kids outside of marraige? I could tell you that most AA baby daddies Ive known are an important presence in their families lives with just as much conviction that you have that its the opposite.

I think the structural inequalities in America that are a result of racism have a greater impact in how AA children are reared in OOW homes in in America vs. countrieŕs like Iceland.

And this is why I have an issue with the whole statistic. 70% of black children are born out of wedlock and that's bad, and 70% of white children are born out of wedlock, with a 50% divorce rate after 5 years. If both of the biological parents are involved in the kids lives...Where's the difference here?

 

[Dr. Acula]

dont forget the systemic targeting of young black males by the justice system that not only incarcerates fathers and separates families for years, but afterwards makes it impossible to find decent employment to be able to provide for a family

a Woman can't raise a Man, women don't understand concepts like honor, loyalty, self-sacrifice, duty and most importantly pride. because thats all developed in masculine enviornments. Im not saying women arent capable of being loyal or honorable, im saying they cant comprehend how vital those things are to a man. Most women consider those BAD traits, they think its illogical for a man's pride to factor into his decisions and that swallowing your pride is a good thing.



one of the reasons why I believe in Islam is because it outlines strictly the expectations of a man (and women) and it matches up with what I've learned throughout my life. In society its becoming controversial for men to act like men and women to act like women ,

there's gonna be a lot of criticism towards Islam regarding this, when this gender fluid shyt is accepted as mainstream and people will try to completely get rid of the distinct roles of Men and Women

Muslims will flat out refuse tho .

I'm progressive on gender roles in society but there truth is that only another man can put the fear of god in a man or boy going on to man.

I say this as a dude who grew up in a single mother household. Luckily I turned out ok because I had interest and things that kept me out of fukkery for the most part. But I acknowledge that if I was more rebellious, once I hit teen years,
If I wanted to, I could have done a lot of shyt that I wanted without any real fear from my parent.

 

[Saiyajin]

I'm progressive on gender roles in society but there truth is that only another man can put the fear of god in a man or boy going on to man.

I say this as a dude who grew up in a single mother household. Luckily I turned out ok because I had interest and things that kept me out of fukkery for the most part. But I acknowledge that if I was more rebellious, once I hit teen years,
If I wanted to, I could have done a lot of shyt that I wanted without any real fear from my parent.

yea, there comes a time where a mother cant punish a son alone

i think another important aspect is that when parenting, the father and mother are always on the same side and on the same page, having 2 people tell you something just psychologically makes a person act less stubborn because its 2 on 1. There were rare moments where my dad sided with me over my mother and it legit had me like because it almost never happened

also i dont want anyone to take from my post that if you grew up in a single parent household you are fukked or deprived. I was speaking on overall trends where single parent households usually have these issues where dual parent households have less of a problem

everyone is different individually and everyone's upbringing is distinct and unique, and some people have such amazing mothers that they are able to raise their son perfectly. Or some kids are just not rebellious, calm and patient so they dont make mistakes.

so always gotta keep in mind that discussing topics like this is discussing trends over a group of people, not individuals

 

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don't forget the systemic targeting of young black males by the justice system that not only incarcerates fathers and separates families for years, but afterwards makes it impossible to find decent employment to be able to provide for a family

a Woman can't raise a Man, women don't understand concepts like honor, loyalty, self-sacrifice, duty and most importantly pride. because thats all developed in masculine enviornments. Im not saying women arent capable of being loyal or honorable, im saying they cant comprehend how vital those things are to a man. Most women consider those BAD traits, they think its illogical for a man's pride to factor into his decisions and that swallowing your pride is a good thing.



one of the reasons why I believe in Islam is because it outlines strictly the expectations of a man (and women) and it matches up with what I've learned throughout my life. In society its becoming controversial for men to act like men and women to act like women ,

there's gonna be a lot of criticism towards Islam regarding this, when this gender fluid shyt is accepted as mainstream and people will try to completely get rid of the distinct roles of Men and Women

Muslims will flat out refuse tho .

I can't just scroll by. People ALWAYS leave that part out. ALWAYS. Like there arent literally systems in place that have successfully targeted the foundations of the blk family.
Like u just can't get around single parenthood w/o a serious statistical discussion of how numbers of blk males (who would otherwise be viable partners) are targeted by the law leaving them starting from fukking scratch. For shyt as simple as WEED POSSESSION! WHEN ITS GONNA BE LEGAL SOON ANYWAY?!

I swear I feel like life is too surreal. You a real one. Sorry for the rant.

 

[newworldafro]

Yeah but Iceland (size of Kentucky) but the population of Pittsburgh is isolated, so being a deadbeat dad, willingly or not is a lot more difficult. Compare an isolated country with the population of a medium size U.S. county to the United States brehs...

 

[Sauce Dab]

This author can suck my dikk

 

[Geek Nasty]

This is narrowing the issue in the US and skirting the actual problem in the black community. The problem isn't simply marriage, it's non-involved parents, particularly black men not sticking around. Mix in poverty and lack of stability and you have a recipe for disaster.

If the black community had male and females having babies in an otherwise healthy relationship and both parents outside of on paper are in a partnership in raising kids, then it would be a better situation.

You know unmarried Black men have a higher rate of parental involvement that white men right?

 

[Dr. Acula]

You know unmarried Black men have a higher rate of parental involvement that white men right?

Hmm but read the last part of my post you left out?

There is no silver bullet here. One thing can be s problem and doesn't mean that other factors don't matter

 

[Gold]

In America "Black men are shytty fathers"
In Iceland "We have a new, unique view on having children"

 

[Saiyajin]

I can't just scroll by. People ALWAYS leave that part out. ALWAYS. Like there arent literally systems in place that have successfully targeted the foundations of the blk family.
Like u just can't get around single parenthood w/o a serious statistical discussion of how numbers of blk males (who would otherwise be viable partners) are targeted by the law leaving them starting from fukking scratch. For shyt as simple as WEED POSSESSION! WHEN ITS GONNA BE LEGAL SOON ANYWAY?!

I swear I feel like life is too surreal. You a real one. Sorry for the rant.

its disgusting it really is. it makes me mad too.

Weed wont ever be legal because a cop can say the smelt weed to justify probable cause and harass anyone they want. Its impossible to disprove and it gives cops a loophole to violate the 4th amendment. Theyll fight tooth and nail to make sure weed is illegal, they even have weed classified as being as dangerous as heroin

and statistics are so misused I wanna slam my head on the desk

when people try and use statistics to say black people commit crimes at a higher rate. NO. There is no way to measure the rate that any group of people COMMIT crimes.

The only measurements we have are, the rates that the are convicted, arrested, incarcerated, or charged.

These stats reflect the JUSTICE SYSTEM not the community.

No criminologist would ever use those stats in order to argue that crimes are being committed by this group of people. Theyd lose their job. Those stats tell you what the justice system is doing.

Dont even get me started on the shytload of evidence that directly proves that the justice system inherently discriminates based on race .

shyt gets me frustrated I know why they say ignorance is bliss