they're pushing that black-gay agenda heavy...can we be mad though?

[Booker T Garvey]

I feel like you didn't pay attention to what I wrote. Brother to Brother was respectfully done (written by a black gay man, so it had a place). Mackie was simply playing a gay man, he wasn't engaged in fukkery.

(Mind you Will Smith played a gay character before he blew up as well, it was only a minor aspect of his character, though)

She Hate Me was legit a straight male fantasy, created by two straight black men. There isn't a lesbian I know who likes that movie. If anything it was gratuitous and unfocused, a blow to the image of black lesbians.


I just mentioned that American Horror Story and Keke Palmer's video are typical Hollywood bullshyt meant to draw attention. And if you read what I wrote, neither were the result of black gay people.
If they were, then they wouldn't be focused on two clearly bisexual women, not lesbians, who can shrug off their partners at whim just for sexual pleasure. That's the fukkery agenda, nothing more.


Also, when is any of the nonsense that takes place in American Horror Story pertinent to anything? shyt's made by a white gay man (who are known racists that don't like lesbians and stereotype black women all day).

Really, what else would you expect?

ETA:

Forgot one thing, on the point of Women of Brewster's Place and the Color Purple - both written by black women.

These are important because these were my first recollection of seeing women together romantically.

If children can be so influenced by the media to decide whether they're going to be gay or straight, then I'd be straight right now after seeing what happened to lesbians/women in lesbian relationships.

One woman falls for a woman who can't love her back in the case of the Color Purple. In the WOBP, the lesbian couple is closeted and alienated and it ends with one of them being brutally raped by a man.

So, as I said, you would be hard pressed to find any positive depictions of black gays and specifically black lesbians anywhere in the media. And logically, wouldn't that be the way to promote this so-called "lifestyle"?

1) i didn't say BROTHER TO BROTHER was a non-respectfully done movie, just said it was a gay movie - the sex between two men in this movie was pertinent to the story.
2) I didn't say SHE HATE ME wasn't a mans lesbian fantasy movie, just that the theme of the movie was lesbianism - the sex between 2 women was pertinent to the story.

3) your point about AMERICAN HORROR STORY is valid - but was Akeelah and the Bee meant to "draw attention?" - this is the essence of why I posed this question and made this post. a movie about a black girl participating in a spelling bee is a snooze-fest, nobody went to see it, i can assure you Keke Palmers music video already has more views than the akeelah and the bee trailer, and more than the opening weekend ticket receipt tally (I haven't looked but i'll take somebody up on that bet)

4) you're trying to change the topic of this post about negative or positive representations of black gay people in hollywood or on film, and that's not what i'm talking about - i'm talking about mainstream images of prominent A-list black entertainers engaging in sexual gay acts when said gay acts aren't even relevant to the song or to the TV show...

and for the record - if angela bassett and keke palmer were snuggled up with a white/latino men, I'd make the argument that they're pushing the agenda for interracial relationships on our community hard too...call it what you will, but it just looks odd and forced...

 

[Booker T Garvey]

A few people going to the movies means we cant be mad. Dont walk the line. Man the fukk up

not even sure what this is even saying...

but again, for the third time, my point is that if we don't support alternative/positive black images of ourselves with our dollars, then we can't get mad if the gay community takes our actresses and has them crawling all over other women and they're seeing positive re$$$$ult$$$.

 

[Mowgli]

not even sure what this is even saying...

but again, for the third time, my point is that if we don't support alternative/positive black images of ourselves with our dollars, then we can't get mad if the gay community takes our actresses and has them crawling all over other women and they're seeing positive re$$$$ult$$$.

How about turn the TV off because what you said makes no seNse. You won't see positive images of yourself in a white supremacist media

 

[Booker T Garvey]

How about turn the TV off because what you said makes no seNse. You won't see positive images of yourself in a white supremacist media

bruh i'm having a serious realistic discussion, you do realize that even if you and I turn the TV off, millions of black people still have theirs on...

with that "let's not even talk about this!" bullshyt.

 

[notwhoiusedtobe]

1) i didn't say BROTHER TO BROTHER was a non-respectfully done movie, just said it was a gay movie - the sex between two men in this movie was pertinent to the story.
2) I didn't say SHE HATE ME wasn't a mans lesbian fantasy movie, just that the theme of the movie was lesbianism - the sex between 2 women was pertinent to the story.

3) your point about AMERICAN HORROR STORY is valid - but was Akeelah and the Bee meant to "draw attention?" - this is the essence of why I posed this question and made this post. a movie about a black girl participating in a spelling bee is a snooze-fest, nobody went to see it, i can assure you Keke Palmers music video already has more views than the akeelah and the bee trailer, and more than the opening weekend ticket receipt tally (I haven't looked but i'll take somebody up on that bet)

4) you're trying to change the topic of this post about negative or positive representations of black gay people in hollywood or on film, and that's not what i'm talking about - i'm talking about mainstream images of prominent A-list black entertainers engaging in sexual gay acts when said gay acts aren't even relevant to the song or to the TV show...

and for the record - if angela bassett and keke palmer were snuggled up with a white/latino men, I'd make the argument that they're pushing the agenda for interracial relationships on our community hard too...call it what you will, but it just looks odd and forced...

This still isn't adding up. As I said, American Horror Story is produced and run by a white gay man. Everything on it is gratuitous, I don't watch but I hear the relationship between Angela Bassett and Lady Gaga is plot relevant, if not plot ridiculous like pretty much everything on the show. I won't deny that it looks forced, that's because it is, as was that video. Not because of a black gay agenda, but because fukkery sells.

You wouldn't even be talking about American Horror Story right now and giving it free publicity if they hadn't put that relationship together. Same for How to Get Away with Murder, they had Viola kissing a yt woman, but once again, a white gay man runs that show. So how in the heck is it the black gay agenda when a white man pulls the strings and has black people engaged in corny black/white relationships (gay and straight)?

And people did see Akeelah and the Bee. It grossed a decent amount. I even took my baby sister to see it when it came out. Tbh it was just alright but it was positive and there were black people in it and that was enough for me to decide my sister should see it. There's obviously a difference between someone paying carfare or gas to see a $13 movie and hitting play on a free youtube video, you can't even compare the two.

I'm sure it'll do better than the video Esperanza Spalding did a few years back with the same exact theme (leaves her boyfriend for a white woman or whatever she was).

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

These are white owned companies so it's to be expected. They force their culture on us. And black people do enjoy positive black shows, the problem is those shows usually sucked. Fresh Prince, Martin, Living Single, In Living Color, Family Matters, etc. There were tons of em back when I was growing up.

We have some independent black media but nothing that rivals ABC, CBS, WB, etc.

You full of shyt breh. Real talk. Word to that gays getting married thread.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

This still isn't adding up. As I said, American Horror Story is produced and run by a white gay man. Everything on it is gratuitous, I don't watch but I hear the relationship between Angela Bassett and Lady Gaga is plot relevant, if not plot ridiculous like pretty much everything on the show. I won't deny that it looks forced, that's because it is, as was that video. Not because of a black gay agenda, but because fukkery sells.

You wouldn't even be talking about American Horror Story right now and giving it free publicity if they hadn't put that relationship together. Same for How to Get Away with Murder, they had Viola kissing a yt woman, but once again, a white gay man runs that show. So how in the heck is it the black gay agenda when a white man pulls the strings and has black people engaged in corny black/white relationships (gay and straight)?

And people did see Akeelah and the Bee. It grossed a decent amount. I even took my baby sister to see it when it came out. Tbh it was just alright but it was positive and there were black people in it and that was enough for me to decide my sister should see it. There's obviously a difference between someone paying carfare or gas to see a $13 movie and hitting play on a free youtube video, you can't even compare the two.

I'm sure it'll do better than the video Esperanza Spalding did a few years back with the same exact theme (leaves her boyfriend for a white woman or whatever she was).

i think we're having two separate conversations

1) telling me that white men produce these shows doesn't really discredit my argument that there is definitely a gay agenda behind the scenes, in fact, you're only supporting it with evidence

2) i'm speaking on the actresses being popular black stars, i never said anything about the writers, producers, directors - and yes you are right, viola davis's scene supports my argumenta s well

3) there's no need to speculate or debate about Akeelah and the Bee, the movie's numbers are out there, but behind the numbers you have ike and tina in a movie together, stella and morpheus, furious styles and his wife from boyz n the hood - we know them, they are our hollywood royalty in another movie together...we stayed home. we just didn't want to see this movie...

it's a new decade/era...maybe we've moved on from them and want to see tyler perry in a dress, a pansexual young thug, keke palmer kissing on girls, nicki and cassie rubbing on each other, we never saw Whitney and Mariah kissing and rubbing on each other, maybe this generation just wants to see that type of shyt from their mainstream "hetero" stars...if so then its' to be expected that the GAY community sees a brand new target marketing audience

 

[RoyalQ]

BET is pushing that gay shyt heavy. Just heard they are going to have a new sh I w about being gay in church. So we got gay rappers, transexuals on LAHH, and now a new show for gays and religion. Sheesh. Good thing I stopped watching tv a long time ago. I'm about to turn off the radio and log off the internet too. Seems like it's the Only way to keep my sanity.

 

[IVS]

There's pretty much an agenda for everything now.

Right! Esp when you view media as propaganda and recognize that someone\something is always trying to sell to you all day, every day in our society. Whether it is a product, or an idea\ideology.