They Shootin': Gallows/Anderson speak on Heyman, AEW/WWE Negotiations, Absentee Dad being mad, etc.
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Sounds like the burned a bridge with AEW by backing out at the last minute but won’t admit it. The Bucks probably we’re booking with some expectation that they were coming in.
Vinny Lupton
Superstar
"we’re rolling with AJ"
MAGA Styles holds no weight
MAGA Styles holds no weight
White City Black
Ol’ Basquiat head ass
Admittedly I don’t remember where these two were at booking wise right before they re-signed, but I always thought that first run was wack.
Because of that, I honestly could see Anderson and Gallows taking that into consideration and saying well, we know we could build our value back up right off the bat with AEW. They would’ve been big time players. If they cared that much about creative, I would’ve just taken the AEW offer. Sounds like a was less miserable, less micromanaged time. And YES, if fukking TNA (hell even ROH) can last all the way from 2002 or whatever, I’m not writing off AEW like that.
...but if you have a family with several kids (Anderson) and you’re being offered a helluva lot of money for 5 years to perform for the biggest company in your industry (and I think it was said possible backstage work was also mentioned), then like they said logically it made sense to re-sign at the time. AEW could’ve turned out to be a crappy place to work at, and they would’ve been mad as fukk they didn’t take Vince’s money.
Because of that, I honestly could see Anderson and Gallows taking that into consideration and saying well, we know we could build our value back up right off the bat with AEW. They would’ve been big time players. If they cared that much about creative, I would’ve just taken the AEW offer. Sounds like a was less miserable, less micromanaged time. And YES, if fukking TNA (hell even ROH) can last all the way from 2002 or whatever, I’m not writing off AEW like that.
...but if you have a family with several kids (Anderson) and you’re being offered a helluva lot of money for 5 years to perform for the biggest company in your industry (and I think it was said possible backstage work was also mentioned), then like they said logically it made sense to re-sign at the time. AEW could’ve turned out to be a crappy place to work at, and they would’ve been mad as fukk they didn’t take Vince’s money.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
sign with the company originally because big is better and wcw.
just let aj styles lapses to the indies. Then when on the goat run from said indies.
bigger is better semantics come into play. Where gallows being tall is buried and never given a chance. Then you play the place.
that got you over when you were still green as fukk in njpw. Plus, go back to the WWE. Where you never materialized during the semantics of bigger is better. Plus wwe has never known. how to make a tag divisor ever. Where you both need a tag division.
to cover up both you and your tag partner who are green as fukk.
Plus your tsg partner has not benched a cot damn weight in who knows how lonG in a chest aesthetic business. Plus in a bigger is better dominant promotion. Where your partner is severely undersized and not a great worker in the whole idea of the Anderson model or mold as well.
the dead weight and weak links of the bullet club was destined to fail.
that for gallows and Anderson to not sign where they would be protected from bigger is better. Plus allowed to be carried by better tag teams.
with no size discrepancies was where they needed to go. Which was njpw or aew.
for them To sign in tna or wwe by simple semantics.
to x's and o's.
while navigating a surefire burials systematically from the WWE.
then in the downward burial to destruction of the draw signing in impact. Is the worst case scenario come to life for the supposed good brother.
who both never were charismatic enough to be staple draws in WWE. Plus never worked their way up a card as singles standouts. Nor do they have that thing needed as a seasoned all around vet.
to re-invent themselves once buried vkm will do to any talent.
to ever be a signing vkm to anyone in booking/creative would be open to becoming a new draw. Especially gallows who failed as an in house creation.
Plus was with punk. including apart of a troll joke of the clique. Which made the WWE have to go into signing/raid/burial mode of rival promotions. That they always do.
when a new drawing promotion or group of grapplers.
challenges their wwe status quo or ideal.
Just complete victims to overthinking.
Plus a complete omission of the past to facts and history in the business as well. Especially as far as a turner conglom owned network. Who even if they go out of business. Allowed sting to almost never even sign to the WWE as well.
just omission of facts and overthinking all across the board. From thinking they would be used properly in WWE. When both were never singles standouts past one or two one off njpw matches. Plus, were the actual weak phoney links of the bullet club.
over think breh.
art barr
just let aj styles lapses to the indies. Then when on the goat run from said indies.
bigger is better semantics come into play. Where gallows being tall is buried and never given a chance. Then you play the place.
that got you over when you were still green as fukk in njpw. Plus, go back to the WWE. Where you never materialized during the semantics of bigger is better. Plus wwe has never known. how to make a tag divisor ever. Where you both need a tag division.
to cover up both you and your tag partner who are green as fukk.
Plus your tsg partner has not benched a cot damn weight in who knows how lonG in a chest aesthetic business. Plus in a bigger is better dominant promotion. Where your partner is severely undersized and not a great worker in the whole idea of the Anderson model or mold as well.
the dead weight and weak links of the bullet club was destined to fail.
that for gallows and Anderson to not sign where they would be protected from bigger is better. Plus allowed to be carried by better tag teams.
with no size discrepancies was where they needed to go. Which was njpw or aew.
for them To sign in tna or wwe by simple semantics.
to x's and o's.
while navigating a surefire burials systematically from the WWE.
then in the downward burial to destruction of the draw signing in impact. Is the worst case scenario come to life for the supposed good brother.
who both never were charismatic enough to be staple draws in WWE. Plus never worked their way up a card as singles standouts. Nor do they have that thing needed as a seasoned all around vet.
to re-invent themselves once buried vkm will do to any talent.
to ever be a signing vkm to anyone in booking/creative would be open to becoming a new draw. Especially gallows who failed as an in house creation.
Plus was with punk. including apart of a troll joke of the clique. Which made the WWE have to go into signing/raid/burial mode of rival promotions. That they always do.
when a new drawing promotion or group of grapplers.
challenges their wwe status quo or ideal.
Just complete victims to overthinking.
Plus a complete omission of the past to facts and history in the business as well. Especially as far as a turner conglom owned network. Who even if they go out of business. Allowed sting to almost never even sign to the WWE as well.
just omission of facts and overthinking all across the board. From thinking they would be used properly in WWE. When both were never singles standouts past one or two one off njpw matches. Plus, were the actual weak phoney links of the bullet club.
over think breh.
art barr
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
"we’re rolling with AJ"
MAGA Styles holds no weight
this.
no idea of industry history.
they could have looked at prince albert, debuting as tensai.
then, saw what was going to happen.
shyt even knowing the history of vader in japan to wcw to wwf. Should have told gallows what was good. Plus gallows was with punk.
so I have no idea.
how he thought being with aj.
would supplant the fact he was in a punk stable.
Plus the fact db was originally signed to bury just like this. That it was so convenient originally Db choking someone got him removed too.
when Db originally was signed to raid and bury roh on DirecTV.
from being the best high quality wrasslin show probably ever originally week to week.
just a total over thought omission of history.
that udc level education was on display here.
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Why the fukk would Heyman give a shyt how much someone is getting paid when he had nothing to do with the money?
What's more likely:
1. Paul Heyman stooges that GA are getting paid too much, so Vince fires them at his behest
2. Paul Heyman makes it clear he has no interest in using them for anything, so Vince fires them at his behest
3. Paul Heyman gets them fired as part of his weird feud with AJ
4. Vince had buyer's remorse and only signed them twice to keep them away from other companies, has never had an interest in using them, fires them because they're deadweight to him like the other 20 people released, for some reason Heyman is getting the blame
What's more likely:
1. Paul Heyman stooges that GA are getting paid too much, so Vince fires them at his behest
2. Paul Heyman makes it clear he has no interest in using them for anything, so Vince fires them at his behest
3. Paul Heyman gets them fired as part of his weird feud with AJ
4. Vince had buyer's remorse and only signed them twice to keep them away from other companies, has never had an interest in using them, fires them because they're deadweight to him like the other 20 people released, for some reason Heyman is getting the blame
A combination of number 2 and 4 is the most likely option. Paul having no interest in using them made it easier for Vince to cut bait with them since he likely regretted resigning them.
Uncle Phil 36
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They dropped the ball big time with G&A, had so many opportunities to do a nice Balor Club/OC (with AJ) run and could've had them be the muscle to either as the champ
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
Yea.... it’s still unbelievable to me the never had them together with AJ and Ferg.
That’s about as crazy as them never booking Brock vs Lashley
shyt is ridiculous how they drop the ball.
Back to the Paul thing though. He may be a liar and piece of shyt but he ain’t the Boss. Too much blame it being placed on Heyman and it’s well documented how Vince feels about Heyman.
Them getting fired is ALL Vince
I think we've really gotten used to picturing Vince as that crazy Targaryn king that was on the throne before Game of Thrones started, with him screaming "BURN THEM ALL!
" over and overReality, birds of a feather really do flock together. Bosses rarely surround themselves with people who they don't see some of themselves in. Rarely do their egos allow them to surround themselves with people who will contradict their decisions and keep them in check.
It DOES happen, but it's rare.
Wait, so they told the Bucks & them they was coming, backed out & signed with the competition and folks in AEW are not supposed to feel a way 
That was some clown shyt on Anderson & Gallows' part.
That was some clown shyt on Anderson & Gallows' part.
they realized they'll get to be the big fish in Impact and signed with them
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PlayerNinety_Nine
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By their own admission, they damn near didn't have a choice.
WWE fired them, ROH isn't shooting at the moment, they can't get to Japan right now, there are very few indies running and they seem to have burned their bridge with AEW.
By process of elimination....
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
just the fact they signed to the WWE. While being oblivious to the troll joke of the bullet club sharking the clique. Is what boggles my mind the most.
like if you know this industry.
why would you think you had leverage at all.
when wwe does not sign people just because.
it is always a point to bury woven into their signings.
why would you sign with the WWE and you are the troll joke on the faction vkm empowered the most in his entire company history. That real talk,...vkm. Is the leader of the cliq.
how are you gonna get past being the troll joke of the clique.
when you do not really have anything of value besides being poached via raid of another promotion like the titan times slash rock'n roll wrasslin era. Gallows especially in all this. As all you hear is of him being some mind like that. Yet i can not tell. With Anderson,...your name is karl Anderson. Like are arn Anderson....
you see what happened to arn and Alicia fox. Where the WWE will get rid of you for even remotely siding with a woman who is not white. Where your whole gimmick is playing off of having a woman who is not recognized as white in America. shyt cw anderson never showed up as cw anderson in any glory on WWE tv. So why would you think you would be any different as karl "machine gun" Anderson. When you can not even use a gun gimmick frfr in the wwe at all. shyt the stun gun is shortened to the ghetto blaster. which implies radio to just shortened stunner. So why the hell would you think signing to wwe was a good idea. Plus gallows was in the WWE and never draw vkm's approval at all whatsoever. When he is an in house creation. Plus, we all have seen vkm has his bigger is better all time in brock. That real talk,...he is not going to supplant in legacy probably ever. Nor will there be another bigger is better guy like that to ever be in a wrasslin ring with the pedigree of brock.
not to mention neither have the look or it factor at all whatsoever.
Plus their workrate has no styles.
to be able to compromise to the moveset and workrate restriction in the WWE as well.
we can look at aj originally debuting and being saddled with thr phenomenal forearm originally in their attempt to bury styles. Then later on wink wink allow the styles clash as his finish.
which at this point this to be expected. Bryan has no cattle mutaliation. austin aries had no brain buster. after somoa joe and tyson cemented the WWE's stance . You need to evaluate your own workrete in that same regard. You can easily see the wwe.
will remove key components to your workrate and expect you to figure it out. When Anderson and gallows are green and have no other gear or experience.
to call upon to know their way around that. With Bryan Danielson, he showcased you need to be able to make gold out of vkm's shyt. Anderson and gallows are not that experienced and are not savants.
to be able to navigate that terrain at this point in their careers as well.
all they saw was money and lights.
while showcasing no cognitive awareness of what they were doing.
this was easy to see happening when they signed too.
that I just don't know wtf would they sign to wwe.
it just made no sense. Especially when you know talent wise.
they were not as good as decay. Plus they will get exposed in impact for not paying attention to detail as well. As impact when it comes to tags is so far progressed from their past rosters. You have to be otherworldly great like the bucks to daniels/skipper, beer money, aj/daniels, mcmg, lax etc. Of which gallows and Anderson are going to get exposed in impact as well.
as impact and roh are the wrong places for them easily. As they are not that talented a tag unit.
to make any waves in either promotion. impact is gonna have to shyt gears to get them over.
as them and the north are turn the channel inducing if on the same program together.
glad i don't tune into impact at anymore. Yet, gallows and anderson have their work cut out for them in impact. As potentially they are not comparable. To what people who watch tags on impact expect talent wise.
they would have to be carried to have a lax versus decay match and i know they not gon ever be that good.
art barr
oh and ftr is trash too.
so, gallows and Anderson made a really bad decision. Plus with ftr being so garbage.
I do not think in thr future gallows and Anderson will get past the WWE burial funk. Plus i believe after ftr. Aew may be done ever poaching a past WWE talent.
that is not aj or Bryan as well.
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