"They Say Du-Wop Homeeee" The GREAT Dwight Howard Returns...2016-17 ATL Hawks Season Thread

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I was just thinking about this exchange...is Dennis assist numbers really important in this style of offense? Or would we be better off with the score-first, attacking Dennis?

I say that because when Dennis was trying to lay back and set people up in the first half playing a more "traditional" pg role, the turnover numbers piled up. However, In the second half, when Dennis were more aggressive, attacking the paint, and looking for his own shot, the offense flowed a ton better. And the Hawks still ended up with 28 assists even though he only had two.

Is it imperative that Dennis try to play that traditional pg role or should just play his natural game (which may also kill a lot of his forced turnovers) when the assist number (team-wise) is going to be there regardless? :jbhmm:

well I don't mind him being aggressive but I noticed he botched a lot of offensive possessions last night because he would rather go for a contested or difficult layup instead of passing out to an open man...combine that with how reckless and turnover prone he is right now and it could potentially be a cause for concern...but I think he will get adjusted to the tempo of the offense over the course of the season and distribute better

all in all tho I need more than 2 dimes out of our starting pg, especially when it comes with 4 or 5 turnovers...but there's plenty of time and room for improvement :obama: if he averages around 6 asts for the season I would consider that great
 

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Yea one of those TOs was one where Wall went for the layup and Bazemore went under his legs to commit the foul. Imagine if Baze got ejected for that
 

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I was just thinking about this exchange...is Dennis assist numbers really important in this style of offense? Or would we be better off with the score-first, attacking Dennis?

I say that because when Dennis was trying to lay back and set people up in the first half playing a more "traditional" pg role, the turnover numbers piled up. However, In the second half, when Dennis were more aggressive, attacking the paint, and looking for his own shot, the offense flowed a ton better. And the Hawks still ended up with 28 assists even though he only had two.

Is it imperative that Dennis try to play that traditional pg role or should just play his natural game (which may also kill a lot of his forced turnovers) when the assist number (team-wise) is going to be there regardless? :jbhmm:

A good PG should average 7-8 assists no matter the system. I'm not buying that Dennis averaging 2 assists per game is ok because of this system. Dennis can play his game but he's also got to remember to get everybody involved and be under control enough so that he can play at that frenetic pace we know he can play at. It'll probably take him 20-25 games to find his pace but he's gotta understand it's his team now. He doesn't have to try to prove he's as good as Teague anymore, we riding with him no matter if he sucks or balls out :dame:
 

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The Case For: Welcoming Dwight Howard Back Into Your Life
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  • Dwight Howard has had a rocky road since leaving Orlando, but he could finally find smooth sailing with the Hawks in his hometown of Atlanta.
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ROHAN NADKARNI
Friday October 28th, 2016


Look, there’s no getting around the fact that Dwight Howard was an insufferable clown for most of his career. With all the incredibly corny jokes, incessant pouting and awkward post-ups, Howard built a reputation as one of the least-liked players in the NBA, seemingly becoming equally despised by fans and players alike.

Now back in his hometown of Atlanta, Howard is trying to resurrect his career with the forward-thinking Hawks. And you know what? I am completely here for it.

Dwight grabbed 19 boards and chipped in 11 points in his Atlanta debut, which resulted in a home win against the Wizards. With the Hawks, I think Howard has finally found the right situation for himself—a supersized role player on a contending team. Obviously, it’s extremely early in the season, and history suggests that Howard will start complaining about his lack of touches in the post at some point. But what if ... he doesn’t?




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I think the Hawks have a higher ceiling with Howard as opposed to Al Horford. Horford has been the better player in recent seasons, but a healthy Dwight—even at age 30—is a better defender and can absolutely wreck defenses in the pick-and-roll. Howard’s ability to vacuum up rebounds and anchor the paint also makes life so much easier for his teammates. And playing out of the spotlight should help Howard, who probably hasn't faced less pressure since his early days in Orlando.

Howard also has to be at least slightly more self-aware this season, right? Even if he truly does want more touches in the post, maybe he’s finally learned not to go public with his complaints. It is completely hokey and convenient to point to Howard’s self-excoriation on Inside the NBA as a career turning point, but that’s exactly what I’m about to do. Seriously, how many stars have gone on TV in the middle of their primes to basically ask Charles Barkley why no one loves them?




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If the sympathy angle does nothing for you, perhaps you’ll appreciate the Hawks as a sleeper team in the East. Amid all the love for the Celtics and assumptions for the Raptors, Atlanta might have its own chance to dethrone LeBron James—though those chances are slim for everyone.

But if Howard really does raise Atlanta’s ceiling, he’s proven to have given LeBron trouble in a playoff series before. Is it totally inconceivable for the Hawks to channel some kind of 2009 Magic vibes to give us an entertaining playoff series against the Cavs? Don’t you want a reason to compare Paul Millsap to Hedo Turkoglu?


It really is a shame Howard wasted the best years of his career injured and sulking alongside ball-dominant stars Kobe Bryant and James Harden. Although he’s not necessarily the focal point, for the first time since his days in Orlando, Howard is on a team that’s more of a collective as opposed to star driven.

Dwight may never win you over—and he’s one awful impression away from ruining any good will he’s built that past few months—but he deserves one last look as someone who can MAYBE help add some drama to the Eastern Conference.
 

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@AVXL biid got that shyt talking dog in him...wop might get throw off he is a lil fragile

Fortunately for us Philly isn't a good team and they won't play 'Biid a lot (minutes restriction), but I could see Wop ain't gonna go for that fukk shyt. Ain't no hand clapping after misses around here this yr
 
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