"They Say Du-Wop Homeeee" The GREAT Dwight Howard Returns...2016-17 ATL Hawks Season Thread

[Sly Cookin]

He's gonna get matched but because the Hawks are idiots with player personnel they're gonna give Sap $200 million and have to match a restricted offer when they couldve signed THJR to a qualifying offer last summer. By letting him play it out THJR got hot and raised his value. Good for him but bad for an organization not to recognize that and tender him...I mean we did give up a 1st round pick for him and gave him a year to develop, the least we could do was protect the investment but whatever. I'm convinced the Hawks FO has no idea what direction they want to take this team

Hindsight is 20/20. Before the season everybody thought it was a good idea to not extend a qualifying offer to hardaway. Nobody knew he was going to take this leap.

 

[AVXL]

Hindsight is 20/20. Before the season everybody thought it was a good idea to not extend a qualifying offer to hardaway. Nobody knew he was going to take this leap.

You traded a 1st round pick and spent a year developing him. You had a team in transition where there was gonna be an opportunity for THJR to get real PT. You telling me it took hindsight to see that THJR might be a part of our future and maybe we should get him under contract at a lower rate? That decision not to put him on a qualifying is gonna cost the Hawks several million more dollars than it had to

 

[charmander]

we're shyt

 

[Sly Cookin]

You traded a 1st round pick and spent a year developing him. You had a team in transition where there was gonna be an opportunity for THJR to get real PT. You telling me it took hindsight to see that THJR might be a part of our future and maybe we should get him under contract at a lower rate? That decision not to put him on a qualifying is gonna cost the Hawks several million more dollars than it had to

Man yes. I could pull up the offseason thread where everybody said the same thing. But I ain't got the time for that. Ain't nobody think we were in transition. We all thought howard would be the missing piece and bazemore would continue to ball.

Nobody thought Tim was going to put up 20 points every other night.

 

[#1 pick]

Only thing is I don't see Sap leaving that kind of money on the table. The Hawks have backed themselves into a weird corner where they basically have committed to making Sap their franchise guy and they've seemed to indicate that they are willing to make Sap Joe Johnson 2.0.

The interesting part is if Sap does have any lingering frustration from the fact that the Hawks aggressively tried to trade him twice in the past 9 months...I still wonder how much that bothers Sap

The Hawks aren't giving him 5 years.

 

[daemonova]

#fallforball from 680 the agenda #tankonia

 

[AVXL]

#fallforball from 680 the agenda #tankonia

Listening now

But we're only up 2 games outta the 8 seed, 3.5 from falling outta the playoffs so it's not like it's totally outta the question

 

[AVXL]

The Hawks aren't giving him 5 years.

Then prepare for him to walk for nothing. For the record I don't want to max Sap out, if Al wasn't worth a max then Sap isn't either but the Hawks are in a position where they are gonna have to throw him a bunch of money and years to get him to stay

It's amazing what only a couple years of player personnel mismanagement can do to cripple a franchise

 

[AVXL]

Surprised none of y'all have discussed this

Dwight Howard used to eat 24 candy bars a day

When Hawks center Dwight Howard was with the Los Angeles Lakers in 2013, he had quite the sweet tooth.

In the March 27th Analytics Issue of ESPN The Magazine, “The NBA’s Secret Addition” follows Howard’s journey to a healthy lifestyle during 2013 when he ate 24 candy bars a day and suffered from various aches and pains.
In the article, Howard was consulted by Lakers’ team nutritionist Dr. Cate Shanahan who spoke to Howard about cutting back on sugar for two weeks.

“To alter Howard’s diet, though, Shanahan first had to understand it. After calls with his bodyguard, chef and a personal assistant, she uncovered a startling fact: Howard had been scarfing down about two dozen chocolate bars' worth of sugar every single day for years, possibly as long as a decade,” ESPN’s Baxter Holmes writes.

“Skittles, Starbursts, Rolos, Snickers, Mars bars, Twizzlers, Almond Joys, Kit Kats and oh, how he loved Reese's Pieces. He'd eat them before lunch, after lunch, before dinner, after dinner, and like any junkie, he had stashes all over -- in his kitchen, his bedroom, his car, a fix always within reach. (Shanahan) told his assistants to empty his house, and they hauled out his monstrous candy stash in boxes -- yes, boxes, plural.”

The full story “The NBA’s Secret Addiction” can be read on ESPN.com.

 

[daemonova]

Kinda hard to get mad about Dwight Howard since he was never that good

 

[AVXL]

Kinda hard to get mad about Dwight Howard since he was never that good

Wop was a top 5-10 player in this league for years breh, how was he never good?

 

[Sly Cookin]

Then prepare for him to walk for nothing. For the record I don't want to max Sap out, if Al wasn't worth a max then Sap isn't either but the Hawks are in a position where they are gonna have to throw him a bunch of money and years to get him to stay

It's amazing what only a couple years of player personnel mismanagement can do to cripple a franchise

Mismanage what? The only bad move was bazemore

 

[#1 pick]

Wop was a top 5-10 player in this league for years breh, how was he never good?

I would say top 2-3. At one time it was him, Bron and Kobe.

 

[daemonova]

Wop was a top 5-10 player in this league for years breh, how was he never good?

He was never a dominant player, only one final and he was on TNT begging for a contract for a reason, the same reason ATL was able to sign him for mid range money

 

[AVXL]

Mismanage what? The only bad move was bazemore

I'm gonna give you a short list from 2015 to now:

Trade for Tiago Splitter (traded rights to Georgios Printezis and future second round pick to San Antonio, SA used that freed up cap space to ultimately sign Lamarcus Aldridge). Splitter played a total of 36 games for the Hawks and averaged 6 pts, 3 rebounds a game in 16 minutes a game for the year and a half he was here because a combination of injuries. Trade FAIL for Hawks

Trade for Tim Hardaway Jr for Kelly Oubre. After an up and down first season in Atlanta (averaged 6 pts & less than 2 rebounds per game), he's been a solid spot starter and off the bench player averaging career highs of 14.1 ppg and almost 3 rebounds a game. Trade WIN for Hawks

2016:

WOAT contract. Nuff said. Hawks FAIL

Losing Al Horford for nothing. Hawks FAIL

Trading Kyle Korver for Mike Dunleavy, Mo Williams (waived) and a protected 1st round pick. As of now, Korver is shooting 48% from 3, only shot 41% for us. He's currently the league leader in 3 pt FG%. Dunleavy is averaging 6 pts and 2 rebounds a game.
Trade FAIL for Hawks

Could've signed Tim Hardaway Jr to qualifying offer last summer but didn't. Now we will have to match his offer as a restricted free agent this summer which will be significantly more expensive than it had to be

This team didn't just get bad on accident...they've made bone headed personnel decisions for almost 2 years running and that shyt catches up to you. I didn't even include how they tried to trade Sap last summer