These Are “Backpack Rappers” According To Google - Agree?
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Sorry but this is a CAC definition by the artists they put
I think people confuse Backpack with Conscious. They are similar but they are like a Venn Diagram, some overlap
Backpack is more of an underground feel, Jazz lounge with less drum beats type of feel, and alot of Backpack Hip Hop are not Conscious at all
I think people confuse Backpack with Conscious. They are similar but they are like a Venn Diagram, some overlap
Backpack is more of an underground feel, Jazz lounge with less drum beats type of feel, and alot of Backpack Hip Hop are not Conscious at all
Think Rawkus records type shyt. If you mother has heard of him before than he is not a backpack rapper.
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Those labels are white people stuff, but i do like cole conscious raps
See here's the thing with the concept of "backpack rappers", it was a facade like Neo Soul singers, when in reality they were on some bird brain deviant shyt as well.Reminds me of when Ras Kass got interviewed saying that he hated the concept of backpack rap and the only reason he had a backpack on when he was performing, was the fact that he used to carry liquor. Ever since I read that shyt, I give every rapper the side eye
even the meaning is gentrified
they were street rappers with bookbags that had guns in em and originally like duck down. when the underground just meant having a street level sound. around the 2000's it became about anti commercialism and associated with lyrical miracle shyt and then divorced from the street element. today i consider it a sleight to call someone that. the divergence the underground took in the early 2000's was spearheaded by elitism and outside influence (cacs). white journalists who didn't like street oriented rap trying to define what "real hip hop" was didn't sit well with me. it's the difference between rawkus and def jux, even if not huge the nuances say everything and I know Company Flow co-founder EL-P was part of Rawkus. His label spearheaded the "white" underground if you ask me, regardless of them having some Black artists and fans.
It's the difference between Czarface and Grizelda. both are underground but one comes from that early 2000 lineage of imitation soulless boom bap backpack rap while the other harkens back to the 90's. that early 2000's divergence was a critical point in raps timeline. Armand Hammer still walk that path, Alchemist a regular collaborator weaved through both planes in his early career from doing joints with cats like defari then the Mobb.
in short none of those are backpack rappers. what they are is simply rappers who venture a little further in the content category being miscategorized because of the artificial limitations most rappers have in content (money hoes, drugs violence)
they were street rappers with bookbags that had guns in em and originally like duck down. when the underground just meant having a street level sound. around the 2000's it became about anti commercialism and associated with lyrical miracle shyt and then divorced from the street element. today i consider it a sleight to call someone that. the divergence the underground took in the early 2000's was spearheaded by elitism and outside influence (cacs). white journalists who didn't like street oriented rap trying to define what "real hip hop" was didn't sit well with me. it's the difference between rawkus and def jux, even if not huge the nuances say everything and I know Company Flow co-founder EL-P was part of Rawkus. His label spearheaded the "white" underground if you ask me, regardless of them having some Black artists and fans.
It's the difference between Czarface and Grizelda. both are underground but one comes from that early 2000 lineage of imitation soulless boom bap backpack rap while the other harkens back to the 90's. that early 2000's divergence was a critical point in raps timeline. Armand Hammer still walk that path, Alchemist a regular collaborator weaved through both planes in his early career from doing joints with cats like defari then the Mobb.
in short none of those are backpack rappers. what they are is simply rappers who venture a little further in the content category being miscategorized because of the artificial limitations most rappers have in content (money hoes, drugs violence)
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'Backpack Rappers' were, originally in the 90's, underground rappers. These were cats you'd ONLY hear on late-night radio shows and/or college radio, never in a club/party. None of the people on that list, except Atmosphere, fit that appellation.
These cats doing to that term what some people on this board did to 'thick'.
These cats doing to that term what some people on this board did to 'thick'.
If you was spinning records back then, underground/backpack - stuff that wasn't on the radio and in the clubs.
And to be clear, I mean everywhere but NYC. NYC is its own little bubble. Where mc's like Shells and Jae Millz can be considered next up, while somebody like Chingy, J-Kwon, or Smiles and Southstar actually make hits.
Females was not running to the dance floor to shake it to "Bonita Applebum"
Cats was not banging Roughhouse Survivors and Pudgee tha Phat b*stard in the whip, unless you was in Yonkers
Regular BLACK people liked stuff like this.
Because these guys was running things
NWA and then Deathrow changed the way rap sounded, period. Lyrically and then sonically.
You can listen to old West Coast joints prior to Deathrow and After
MC Eiht changed what he rapped on
Ice Cube changed what he rapped on
Above the Law changed a bit.
Geto Boys and UGK had records before Deathrow, and although funkier than most, they went through that transformation too. 91 Face and 91 Pimp C came at the game with different sonics. (Although the Old Pimp C was still nice with the samples, he used the same break as Showbiz and AG on one joint)
NWA gave rise to stuff like Dayton's Most Wanted. Everyone wanted to be a gangster.
But Death Row said, we ain't doing that "digging in the crates" stuff. So now your Uncle can come in with his bass, with Auntie on the hook.
The east coast response? Puffy brought in the R&B and the Flash.
Folks tried to adapt, Long in the Tooth Masta Ace even tried to get in on it
1993 - when he's trying to appeal to his base
He also made a parody rmx of the same song, that no one realized was parody cause nobody bought this album
But then it turned out to be a hit
I wish I had some of the interviews where he backtracked his west coast criticisms...
And to be clear, I mean everywhere but NYC. NYC is its own little bubble. Where mc's like Shells and Jae Millz can be considered next up, while somebody like Chingy, J-Kwon, or Smiles and Southstar actually make hits.
Females was not running to the dance floor to shake it to "Bonita Applebum"
Cats was not banging Roughhouse Survivors and Pudgee tha Phat b*stard in the whip, unless you was in Yonkers
Regular BLACK people liked stuff like this.
Because these guys was running things
NWA and then Deathrow changed the way rap sounded, period. Lyrically and then sonically.
You can listen to old West Coast joints prior to Deathrow and After
MC Eiht changed what he rapped on
Ice Cube changed what he rapped on
Above the Law changed a bit.
Geto Boys and UGK had records before Deathrow, and although funkier than most, they went through that transformation too. 91 Face and 91 Pimp C came at the game with different sonics. (Although the Old Pimp C was still nice with the samples, he used the same break as Showbiz and AG on one joint)
NWA gave rise to stuff like Dayton's Most Wanted. Everyone wanted to be a gangster.
But Death Row said, we ain't doing that "digging in the crates" stuff. So now your Uncle can come in with his bass, with Auntie on the hook.
The east coast response? Puffy brought in the R&B and the Flash.
Folks tried to adapt, Long in the Tooth Masta Ace even tried to get in on it
1993 - when he's trying to appeal to his base
He also made a parody rmx of the same song, that no one realized was parody cause nobody bought this album
But then it turned out to be a hit
I wish I had some of the interviews where he backtracked his west coast criticisms...
bruh, I''m from the west & was on that Pudgee tha Phat b*stard "give them the finger back day. I've always gravitated towards East Coast rap tho
I was splitting time between the South and NYC, so I had love for all of it.
But the hip hop was night and day.
It made me realize a lot of things about hip hop and "the community".
Going through this list, there are a lot of classics - 1995 in hip hop music - Wikipedia
But when you look at the hit singles/sales....
You can tell where hip hop was gonna go.
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google thinks a backpacker is somebody who raps about certain things a certain way when really a backpacker is somebody who raps for a certain audience. too many of the people on that list are rapping for a mainstream audience no matter what their subject matter and style are. backpackers are only trying to impress other backpackers - kendrick and cole are trying to impress the masses.
