"There are NO memorable ECW storylines/angles" - Vinny Ru

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If that's not going into your pocket, why do you care?

Unless you are legitimately making the argument that revenue is the only indicator of artistic merit.

The ONLY objective indicator of success is ratings, period

We can talk BS opinion all day, numbers never lie. GOATsso's pen game put heyman and bytchoff out of work
 

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The only fire Russo will create is when he'll get cremated.

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Staying in business for 8 years competing against two billion dollar corporations running out of your dads basement is a miracle never to happen again.

Show me the numbers

. . .you remain the worst gimmick poster on this forum.

Yet another corny poster that I've never heard of begging for my attention
 
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Says the guy that:

  • Let Owen Hart go up in the rafters when dude was afraid of heights:camby:
  • Ran WCW into the damn ground
  • So looney that even TNA had to give him the boot...TNA:gucci:
  • Needs 20 filters including Vince to literally babysits dude's ideas
  • Still haven't made a storyline worth a thumb up since Karate Fighters were popping
 

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Says the guy that:

  • Let Owen Hart go up in the rafters when dude was afraid of heights:camby:
  • Ran WCW into the damn ground
  • So looney that even TNA had to give him the boot...TNA:gucci:
  • Needs 20 filters including Vince to literally babysits dude's ideas
  • Still haven't made a storyline worth a thumb up since Karate Fighters were popping

1. Proven lie
2. WCW was dead when he arrived, he brought the rating up from 2.5 to 3.5 in 3 months
3. TNA's peak ratings were under DREWsso, numbers fell right after he left
4. Filter myth proven a lie, look at the ratings after left
5. 99% of conversations in wrasslin are about the attitude era, which he penned
 

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new jack going solo was one of the goat shows. i recorded ecw every week for awhile and i just recorded over the previous week but that one i kept. watched it atleast 40/50 times.
 

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1. Proven lie
2. WCW was dead when he arrived, he brought the rating up from 2.5 to 3.5 in 3 months
3. TNA's peak ratings were under DREWsso, numbers fell right after he left
4. Filter myth proven a lie, look at the ratings after left
5. 99% of conversations in wrasslin are about the attitude era, which he penned

  • Elaborate....because I swear more than one source said that Russo made Owen go up on those rafters, despite the fact that dude didn't feel comfortable with doing the stunt.
  • WCW was still doing numbers, even though they were losing to Raw. Nash was somewhat a tolerable booker, even though he always booked himself to go over:beli:.
  • Russo didn't have anything to do with those numbers, it was a mixture of TNA receiving top talent (Cage, Hardy, Angle) and fans looking for an alternative during that weird time of the WWE.
  • WWE ratings were still crazy high and Russo leaving didn't do much damage at all. Stone Cold getting injured and Trips running wild may had been the contributing factor to ratings being a point or two down.
  • Fair point I give you that:ld:
 

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Russo watched ECW weekly and pitched "Attitude" based off of that.

The irony of the whole ECW contributed to the attitude era argument is that ECW bit off of Memphis wrestling promotions and FMW. The difference is that Paul added a bit of 90s flavor to the already established ideas.
 

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What has more "memorable" moments, ECW or TNA?
I would say they've both had memorable moments, I've been to many ECW shows and they were all memorable to me, but TNA is fresher in my mind, so it's tough.

But TNA had way more classic matches, people don't realize how much ECW was rinse and repeat, if you watched one show or ppv, you've basically watched em all. Same impromptu 3 way matches every other show.
 

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  • WCW was still doing numbers, even though they were losing to Raw. Nash was somewhat a tolerable booker, even though he always booked himself to go over:beli:

What does Nash have to do with Vince bringing the ratings up from 2.5 to 3.5 in 3 months when they brought him in?

GOATsso was the booker
 

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What does Nash have to do with Vince bringing the ratings up from 2.5 to 3.5 in 3 months when they brought him in?

GOATsso was the booker

Uhh...the show wasn't doing poorly until Russo started to hijack the entire promotion with his silly ideas:gucci:. When you have majority of the Nitros focusing on work and shoots to a bunch of southern wrasslin fans that still trying to embrace dial up...you in for a rude awakening.
 

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Uhh...the show wasn't doing poorly until Russo started to hijack the entire promotion with his silly ideas:gucci:. When you have majority of the Nitros focusing on work and shoots to a bunch of southern wrasslin fans that still trying to embrace dial up...you in for a rude awakening.

After GOATsso arrived, the ratings went up a full point in 3 months, that's doing poorly? WCW was on the verge of death when arrived thanks to bytchoff one trick poney.
 
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