Then came the Conquistadors!: Why Latin America and Africa share a similar tale

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have you ever had an argument with someone over these

I've only heard some in passing and boy they sucked

u know the usual "thats how its always been" and "well some aren't against it" and "its not really offensive, you're just interpreting it that way"
 

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Europeans have really brought a lot of instability to the world. It's just not Latin America. All indigenous people have been affected by the greed and maliciousness of Europeans.
 

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Europeans have really brought a lot of instability to the world. It's just not Latin America. All indigenous people have been affected by the greed and maliciousness of Europeans.

Funny thing is all my history / political science professors had a sense of white guilt when these subjects came up.

Like damn white people really did some f*cked up sh*t :why:

But if you understand the GGS argument. It's really comes down to geographical location. Black people would have done the exact same thing had the geographic locations been reversed :yayo::gladbron::ooh::beli:
 

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nah fakkits dont try to assimilate now. You losers are 12% of the population and will stay at that number while hispanics bout to be like 30-40% in 30 years. We bout to take this bytch over. You're done :umad:
 

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If you were raised in America, and went to public schools, you pretty much only learn about Slavery in terms of American genocide, and even that is extremely diluted and whitewashed.

You know more about the Holocaust than anything else. They skim through the Trail of Tears for maybe 2 minutes.

In Brazil, they don't say shyt.
We actually talked a lot of the Native American genocide in school growing up :yeshrug:
 

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i might be wrong but im pretty sure majority of them are mezito (mixed w/ native indian roots) and there are alot of pockets in south america with large black populations like columbia and brazil with slave ancestry. Conquitsadors brought in african slaves that were bred with the natives.

Latin America is for the most part an oligarchy with the very wealthy elite being mostly white european decent. They live like kings while the urban natives live on less than $40 dollars a week in most cases.

I think the difference is that #1 the americas were a new discovery/world where as Africa had already established itself with civilizations like Egypt who were a huge superpower in the ancient world. #2 Gold was as common as sand, the amount of gold found in inca/mayan cities sounded like a dream when news came over the ocean So it attracted the worst kind of people ready to sail across the ocean and get theirs


well there are definitely a lot of "mestizos" but personally i feel mestizo is a european construct and thats why i would rather separate latin america history from african history, im not indigenous but i would also seperate indigenous history from latin america history, "mestizos" do not represent an indigenous culture they actually represent a eurocentric culture, for the most part the so called mestizo carries on the racism and social ideas of their european ancestors

there are some pockets of africans and indigenous people, but if you take away the one drop rule latin america = european

the GGS book breaks it down very well how europeans tried to colonize africa but failed becuase in terms of disease the impact was opposite of what happened in the americas, the europeans were dropping like flies from disease, their crops wouldnt grow and the africans resisted to much for actual colonization

it wasnt really about gold, north america for example had no gold and they displaced the natives anyway, europeans where trying to do the same thing in africa, they conquered africa with guns and by using the existing tribal structures, but they were never able to actually displace the native population like they did in the americas

guns germs and steel has some controversial theories but in terms of history its excellent, it breaks it down very well the difference in the history of europeans in africa vs the americas
 

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In Brazil, the ingenious people are placed right at the fukking bottom. They constantly are hated or discriminated by all the others. Especially right now, where some of the population think the tribes are slowing down manufacturing and infrastructure in the Amazon region.
 

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We actually talked a lot of the Native American genocide in school growing up :yeshrug:

Not for me. Where did you go to school if I may ask? Not the specific school but area. I'm sure it might change as you move to certain parts of the country. Here in South Florida, we spent a c*nt hair of a clock tick on it.

Europeans have really brought a lot of instability to the world. It's just not Latin America. All indigenous people have been affected by the greed and maliciousness of Europeans.

Even Europeans have brought instability amongst themselves. If you read about the Norman Invasion of the British Isles, you'll see what they did to the indigenous tribes there. If you read about what Britain did to Ireland during the 10s-20s as well. The entire European system was built on Greek, Roman and Viking culture. All war-based cultures.

have you ever had an argument with someone over these

I've only heard some in passing and boy they sucked

u know the usual "thats how its always been" and "well some aren't against it" and "its not really offensive, you're just interpreting it that way"

Can you imagine a team having a mascot modeled after Africans, Jews or Hispanics in the year 2012? It wouldn't happen.

They still teach kids in school this myth about Thanksgiving.
 

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Europeans have really brought a lot of instability to the world. It's just not Latin America. All indigenous people have been affected by the greed and maliciousness of Europeans.


I feel like they picked up the savage ways of the neandrathal and carried it with them to the rest of the world. A plague to mankind they were. ..
 

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I feel like they picked up the savage ways of the neandrathal and carried it with them to the rest of the world. A plague to mankind they were. ..

They were just superior at it.

All races had violence, battles and wars.

You think the Aztecs and Incas weren't enslaving smaller tribes? You think they didn't go to war with one another?

People can't be this dumb can they?
 

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They were just superior at it.

All races had violence, battles and wars.

You think the Aztecs and Incas weren't enslaving smaller tribes? You think they didn't go to war with one another?

People can't be this dumb can they?

:aicmon:

Violence is paramount to being human. It's just that their subhuman level of violence is something I equate to neandrathals. Makes sense since they battled neandrathals for dominance of Europe.:manny:

Aztecs and incas did enslave tribes and make sacrifices. But their slaves didn't pick cotton all day and they didn't give other tribes blankets laced with smallpox. They sure as hell didn't feed children to dogs and test their weapons by slicing people in half.
 
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