Then came the Conquistadors!: Why Latin America and Africa share a similar tale

[Brian O'Conner]

 

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The atrocities committed against the indigenous people of the Americas is a subject that is grossly neglected in education and history throughout the Americas.

 

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I always find it sad that people know more about the Holocaust in Europe than the Holocaust in their own countries.

Oxford University Press: American Holocaust: David E. Stannard

From the 1490s when Christopher Columbus set foot on the Americas to the 1890 massacre of Sioux at Wounded Knee by the United States military, the indigenous population of the Western Hemisphere may have declined, the direct cause mostly from disease, to 1.8 million, from as many as 100 million.

 

[lachreyatarbabypits]

What did people really think this was just happening in Africa?

 

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What did people really think this was just happening in Africa?

If you were raised in America, and went to public schools, you pretty much only learn about Slavery in terms of American genocide, and even that is extremely diluted and whitewashed.

You know more about the Holocaust than anything else. They skim through the Trail of Tears for maybe 2 minutes.

In Brazil, they don't say shyt.

 

[Yapdatfool]

Id like to add that at least in the USA, not only was native americans killed, but their MAIN foodsource (bison) was also almost killed to extinction because they were eaten by native americans. Damn that's hateful.

 

[Serious]

Guns, Germs and Steel.....

I didn't learn in depth about this until I reached college, I may have learned about it in elementary - middle school, but who the hell is paying attention back then......

 

[lachreyatarbabypits]

If you were raised in America, and went to public schools, you pretty much only learn about Slavery in terms of American genocide, and even that is extremely diluted and whitewashed.

You know more about the Holocaust than anything else. They skim through the Trail of Tears for maybe 2 minutes.

In Brazil, they don't say shyt.

I didnt know that. Well it happened in the Americas for sure. But they did put the genocide in some textbooks. I remember reading in a textbook they gave the Americans blankets infected with smallpox.

 

[ThatTruth777]

I remember reading about these conquest in a condensed history book where of course the details were left out. An acronym used to describe the European goals in their conquest of that time period were called the 3 Gs: Gold, Glory and God. It was implied that they raped and pillaged to anybody with sense but reading between the lines you knew it was much more gruesome. What book is this from?

This stuff right here makes me think about all the things I read back then in books I can't remember;gets me real introspective you know.

I wrote some more stuff but this right here is just wicked... truly demonic

 

[theworldismine13]

well the main difference, is that in the americas, the conquistadores and other colonists are still there and they still control everything, the majority of latin america is white or majoity white ancestry

the europeans actually wanted to colonize africa the same way they colonized the americas, as in it wasnt just about resources, they wanted to be the majority of the population

in GGS they explain how diseases and the environment stopped european expansion into africa

 

[newworldafro]

Yeah, the Native American genocide is definitely one of those moments in history.....its so easily forgotten, b/se for better or worse we as Americans utilize what was their land as our country.......kinda deep.

Still curious to know my Native American tribal roots..........

Hope they can continue to hold on to their languages.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

lol damn I can't get any work done. HL got all these threads up.

In NY we had to learn about the Native American's and we did learn about the spanish colonization.

We started learning it in my 4th grade social studies class. I'll never forget that. That's honestly the class that turned me away from simply wanting to be smart and into realizing the importance of history and the world.

They were instrumental in the foundation of NY (no fukkn duh). Learned about the Iroquois and Algonquins. Learned about the role of woman in society. All that.

Crazy with the story about Cortes. I actually learned this from my 7th grade Earth Science teacher. When I found out the Mayans had "predicted" the arrival of Cortes my mind was officially blown.

 

[Brian O'Conner]

well the main difference, is that in the americas, the conquistadores and other colonists are still there and they still control everything, the majority of latin america is white or majoity white ancestry

the europeans actually wanted to colonize africa the same way they colonized the americas, as in it wasnt just about resources, they wanted to be the majority of the population

in GGS they explain how diseases and the environment stopped european expansion into africa

i might be wrong but im pretty sure majority of them are mezito (mixed w/ native indian roots) and there are alot of pockets in south america with large black populations like columbia and brazil with slave ancestry. Conquitsadors brought in african slaves that were bred with the natives.

Latin America is for the most part an oligarchy with the very wealthy elite being mostly white european decent. They live like kings while the urban natives live on less than $40 dollars a week in most cases.

I think the difference is that #1 the americas were a new discovery/world where as Africa had already established itself with civilizations like Egypt who were a huge superpower in the ancient world. #2 Gold was as common as sand, the amount of gold found in inca/mayan cities sounded like a dream when news came over the ocean So it attracted the worst kind of people ready to sail across the ocean and get theirs

 

[Tesseract]

I think the difference is that #1 the americas were a new discovery/world where as Africa had already established itself with civilizations like Egypt who were a huge superpower in the ancient world.

New to THEM (Europeans). The indigenous population had established civilizations far before the first stone in Greece was set. Matter of fact, the oldest mummies in the world are in Peru, South America.

 

[ineedsleep212]

Had to read this for a college course about Latin America. From what I remember it was pretty good.