The X-Files’ Creator Says Ryan Coogler Is Developing Diverse Reboot

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Hood nikka conspiracies that are real? :ohhh:


Kyrie gotta be executive producing :wow:
"Who put this box of guns in the hood, Scully? These weren't manufactured here."

"Mulder, the fact the guns aren't manufactured in the hood doesn't explain the callous disregard for life that..."

"We have to find the truth, Scully. They cloned Gucci Mane."
 

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"Who put this box of guns in the hood, Scully? These weren't manufactured here."

"Mulder, the fact the guns aren't manufactured in the hood doesn't explain the callous disregard for life that..."

"We have to find the truth, Scully. They cloned Gucci Mane."
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Why doesn’t Coogler do his own shyt? Why reboot x-files but make it black? This is doomed to fail as everyone who’s not black is going to go out of their way to trash it on every platform and act as if they loved the x-files their whole life. Can we just have our own shyt? Jesus fukking Christ. Coogler mid at best anyways but Hollywood doesn’t think so so I would like for him to actually try some shyt that’ll succeed if he’s branching out to sci fi.


Coogler mid? If coogler mid,whos great at this shyt:comeon:?
 

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Peele and Glover are the only current great black filmmakers of our time.


Spike too but he doesn’t need to be mentioned.


Oh you must think weird=genius:mjlol:


Coogler is diverse,writes good chatacters,writes a good story. Doesnt make unenjoyable movies and t.v shows.
 

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X-Files one of my fav shows, so I am intrigued by this. I wis :francis: h someone would do a Sliders rebbot tho
 

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One take fight scene in Creed. The final fight scene in Creed "Im not a mistake......and then the Rocky theme kicks in. . Fruivtale's "confrontation scene"

I'd argue the back to back to back scenes Killmonger meets his father, burns the herb and then 180 camera angle to the throne is great. However, I can understand it not landing as great for people cause MBJ's delivery after having the throne didnt match that energy.

We're entitled to our opinions. Dont do what we tend to do and start being overly critical of black directors because we well we have to be overly critically. You just named dropped a fukking Christopher Nolan scene and Whiplash is one of the better movies in years.


Naw, I’m one of the main dudes on here that says we are hyper-critical when it comes to black films, and that’s reflected with how they often perform at the box office. When I go to see movies like Devotion, I’m damn near the only black person up in that bytch. However, people often cap about how they want non-comic book IPs and stories that represent black people in other roles besides slavery. Don’t even get me started! Regardless, I can hold that position (that we are too critical with black art), and that Coogler isn’t a GREAT director yet, simultaneously.

He has time, though. I don’t think he’s really had that idea, story, film that fully came together. He has to have a film that transitions him from a dude that directs movies to a dude that “makes” movies. That hasn’t happened as of now in my opinion. Moreover, if he’s not in the class of dudes like Nolan, Chazelle, et al., then he hasn’t crossed the “great” boundary yet. Otherwise, what are those dudes? Gods or some shyt? The whole truth is that as esteemed as someone like Nolan is there’s a sizable group of people that think his films are trash, or that he’s overrated.

Hell, there are very vocal voices on this board that say Nolan’s films are trash. You will always have critics. When you juxtapose someone like Nolan, who at this point is a superior director to Coogler in their respective careers (I think most sane people would agree to that) it’s clear that Coogler has room for growth. shyt, some of Nolan’s later films have clear issues: most notably the sound engineering. What I find myself being most critical about Coogler is that often in his films there is a beat that is very important in terms of the story arch, but how it is presented cinematically doesn’t indicate nor illustrate that it is.

For example, when Riri Williams first dons the full Ironheart suit, she is making a proactive decision to become a hero. Her life going forward is never going to be the same. Whoever she was before that moment, she’s never going to be able to be that person anymore. She’s not the little girl that just wants to go back home to MIT. She’s actively deciding to put her own self-interests on the back burner to fight for others. Her story actually parallels Shuri’s in many ways. Yet, it’s presented such a ho-hum manner. There’s so much cinematic “space,” in that scene that the average movie-goer is not even going to see its significance. Age of Ultron was trash for a variety of reasons (e.g., story is goofy, Whedon is mid, and so on), but contrast a very similar beat/theme in Age of Ultron to what Coogler did:





(^^^1:22)

Now, admittedly a director has to choose carefully when and how many of these moments they’re going to have in a film. You can easily over do it, but in my opinion Black Panther 2 needed more of that than what was presented. People will say stuff like, “Her character was shoehorned into the movie. The movie didn’t need Riri Williams.” That’s because the director was incapable of making you FEEL like she was integral to the story, because she actually was.

Lastly, speaking of great scenes, I’ve realized that you can have great scenes in bad or middling movies as a byproduct of this discourse. Zack Snyder is a master at this: producing one or two great scenes in an otherwise emotionally vapid movie. Such that, he’ll always have a diehard fanbas—no matter how much of a hack he is overall—because he gives you one or two dope moments in a film.





 

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Naw, I’m one of the main dudes on here that says we are hyper-critical when it comes to black films, and that’s reflected with how they often perform at the box office. When I go to see movies like Devotion, I’m damn near the only black person up in that bytch. However, people often cap about how they want non-comic book IPs and stories that represent black people in other roles besides slavery. Don’t even get me started! Regardless, I can hold that position (that we are too critical with black art), and that Coogler isn’t a GREAT director yet, simultaneously.

He has time, though. I don’t think he’s really had that idea, story, film that fully came together. He has to have a film that transitions him from a dude that directs movies to a dude that “makes” movies. That hasn’t happened as of now in my opinion. Moreover, if he’s not in the class of dudes like Nolan, Chazelle, et al., then he hasn’t crossed the “great” boundary yet. Otherwise, what are those dudes? Gods or some shyt? The whole truth is that as esteemed as someone like Nolan is there’s a sizable group of people that think his films are trash, or that he’s overrated.

Hell, there are very vocal voices on this board that say Nolan’s films are trash. You will always have critics. When you juxtapose someone like Nolan, who at this point is a superior director to Coogler in their respective careers (I think most sane people would agree to that) it’s clear that Coogler has room for growth. shyt, some of Nolan’s later films have clear issues: most notably the sound engineering. What I find myself being most critical about Coogler is that often in his films there is a beat that is very important in terms of the story arch, but how it is presented cinematically doesn’t indicate nor illustrate that it is.

For example, when Riri Williams first dons the full Ironheart suit, she is making a proactive decision to become a hero. Her life going forward is never going to be the same. Whoever she was before that moment, she’s never going to be able to be that person anymore. She’s not the little girl that just wants to go back home to MIT. She’s actively deciding to put her own self-interests on the back burner to fight for others. Her story actually parallels Shuri’s in many ways. Yet, it’s presented such a ho-hum manner. There’s so much cinematic “space,” in that scene that the average movie-goer is not even going to see its significance. Age of Ultron was trash for a variety of reasons (e.g., story is goofy, Whedon is mid, and so on), but contrast a very similar beat/theme in Age of Ultron to what Coogler did:





(^^^1:22)

Now, admittedly a director has to choose carefully when and how many of these moments they’re going to have in a film. You can easily over do it, but in my opinion Black Panther 2 needed more of that than what was presented. People will say stuff like, “Her character was shoehorned into the movie. The movie didn’t need Riri Williams.” That’s because the director was incapable of making you FEEL like she was integral to the story, because she actually was.

Lastly, speaking of great scenes, I’ve realized that you can have great scenes in bad or middling movies as a byproduct of this discourse. Zack Snyder is a master at this: producing one or two great scenes in an otherwise emotionally vapid movie. Such that, he’ll always have a diehard fanbas—no matter how much of a hack he is overall—because he gives you one or two dope moments in a film.






TBF you're comparing a character who is more of a macguffin + Peter Parker intro in Civil War. Also if anything suffered from Covid filmmaking it was Riri.

Also I'd ague he more than made up for it with Shuri having Two major transitional moments. One where she becomes Black Panther and then another where she embraces who she is despite that power at the end.


Im a Snyder stan so this wont go the way you are thinking with me.

If you think Chazelle is better thats fine, but I dont see this gap between him and Coogler. To me of this current generation only Nolan and Denis are on another level of their own. At least just in mind at this point.

But the starting point of this disourse was me saying Cooger is far from mid at best. So I'll we'll have to agree to disagree as well :manny:
 

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Peele and Glover are the only current great black filmmakers of our time.


Spike too but he doesn’t need to be mentioned.

Glover has never directed any movies so no one knows what he can do. And the few episodes he's done with Atlanta were just ok.

Barry Jenkins though is definitely gifted. I watched Underground Railroad (Yeah it's a slavery show but what he does with it is not to focus on Black suffering but Black resilience in a way other directors who don't care wouldn't).

Gina Prince Bythewood is highly impressive.

Ava DuVernay is also incredibly talented.

F Gary Gray is pretty good.

As is Antoine Fuqua.

And Tim Story.
 
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Nah naw, they are missing the chance for a spinoff based on sum like "Paranormal Rangers" USM episode from a different cultural perspective. Hop from country to country based on local investigators.
 

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Glover has never directed any movies so no one knows what he can do. And the few episodes he's done with Atlanta were just ok.

Barry Jenkins though is definitely gifted. I watched Underground Railroad (Yeah it's a slavery show but what he does with it is not to focus on Black suffering but Black resilience in a way other directors who don't care wouldn't).

Gina Prince Bythewood is highly impressive.

Ava DuVernay is also incredibly talented.

F Gary Gray is pretty good.

As is Antoine Fuqua.

And Tim Story.
forgot about Berry Jenkins my lord….


L for me
 

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I've never seen a group of supposed black people this hateful of diversity :picard: the coli is getting more right wing every day

If they make a show about Black characters that are real characters with depth then I am all for it. Peele does a decent job of making Black people who are just living life and get into some weird shyt.

Something they do too much these days is make the character have as many minority status' as possible. Lots of Black gay dudes - and gay women - pop up to fill multiple slots with one character.

Another bad idea would be for it to be like a "hood" version of X Files with them investigating white supremacists every episode. Scooby Doo but with a KKK redneck under the mask each time.

I think that's the concern. But Coogler does good work. I'm confident he can find a middle ground where it's Black pride but also good TV.
 

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Intriguing:lupe:

...are they gonna have Mulder popping up like the Cigarette Man:patrice:

And, Scully was over it in those flabby reboots:usure:
 
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