The worse thing to happen to black music is the reluctance to sample

[Brofato]

I'm pretty sure samples are used all the damn time.

Also Flavor Flav can play a hell of a lot of instruments.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

for some muthafukkas on a hip hop board, looks like some of yall dont know what hip hop is. guitars are cool n all but...

Let me show you what 'hip-hop' is.....



How the song was made......



That was back in the 80's. With the tech now available almost 40 years later, you have an advantage by knowing how to actually play instruments to produce your OWN beats.

As far as having to use other musicians for instruments that you can't play.........

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[The_King_of_Everything]

it has nothing to do with muical ability. You can't play all the instruments, so what you do is you get session musicians to play them. That costs money for the musicians and the recording and the mixing process. Just Blaze used to do it but he had big budgets. If you don't do it this way but with a computer you get a different sound. Sampling is an artform, and the worst thing that happened to black music are twofold:
1) record companies charging and arm and a leg for clearance
2) idiots who follow the racist argument that sampling somehow isn't an art and judt talentless (black) people stealing music.

DJ Premier is a trained musician bur he chooses to sample because he loves the arr form.

Thank you for adding something of substance to this flabby and sick thread.

 

[karim]

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yeah, you are aware that it says "sounds from a yamaha motif" in the video, which means you are using stock sounds, which means you don't get the same sound. stock sounds are cool, but don't always work. and as i said, sampling is an artform in itself and isn't more or less creative than any other way to make music.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

There is a very good reason artists are now reluctant to sample: $$$$$​

The actual problem is a lack of musical ability. If these artists could actually play instruments themselves, they could do an interpolation of an old track without having to pay exorbitant royalties to the original artist.

That's how Afrika Bambaataa made this @ :46.....



......by copying this @ 1:33

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That's dope

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Let me show you what 'hip-hop' is.....



How the song was made......



That was back in the 80's. With the tech now available almost 40 years later, you have an advantage by knowing how to actually play instruments to produce your OWN beats.

As far as having to use other musicians for instruments that you can't play.........

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Damn that's dope

It's called innovation and changing its times. Disco in the bigger picture dies

Why keep doing the same thang for years? You still usin a cell phone from the 80/90s? Gotta give up a lil something in this case the durability of the phone

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

yeah, you are aware that it says "sounds from a yamaha motif" in the video, which means you are using stock sounds, which means you don't get the same sound. stock sounds are cool, but don't always work. and as i said, sampling is an artform in itself and isn't more or less creative than any other way to make music.

You aren't limited to 'stock sounds'. You can make them sound 'authentic' with the addition of 'filters' and 'plug-ins'. That's the true beauty of producing your own beats/music. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE sampling, but the music industry has spoken. You wanna use someone else's work, you pay them whatever they charge after you've secured their permission. You wanna 'work around' that, then you make your own music. Hip-hop is all about working with what you have and it is in no way fair to the original artists to have their compositions stolen. I'm of the opinion that most original artists would like more than anything to supply these newer artists with that permission to get their music back out there in the public, but many of them don't even own the rights to what they created.​

 

[Danie84]

Those same classic samples, were played by black musicians. You can blame the eradication of

music classes in poor schools, but the extinction of black musicians from our parents era to now is a travesty

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Damn that's dope

It's called innovation and changing its times. Disco in the bigger picture dies

Why keep doing the same thang for years? You still usin a cell phone from the 80/90s? Gotta give up a lil something in this case the durability of the phone

Disco will NEVER die.......ask Red and Meth.......



'Murder, murder, murder....kill, kill, kill.....'
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[WhatsGoodTy]

Good points, but who cares? And its not just "black music"

 

[BezO]

The worst things to happen to black music are..

Black folks don't own & distribute it.
As of recent, the only difference between hip hop and other black music is singing vs rhyming.

If we're talking hip hop only, sampling is alive & well. You may not hear it on the radio as much, but it's still a big part of hip hop.

 

[Mass]

Hip-hop is all about working with what you have

The pure truth here.

 

[kingdizzy01]

Let me show you what 'hip-hop' is.....



How the song was made......



That was back in the 80's. With the tech now available almost 40 years later, you have an advantage by knowing how to actually play instruments to produce your OWN beats.

As far as having to use other musicians for instruments that you can't play.........

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cool story breh

ima leave this here for the young hip hop heads to soak up knowledge:

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

I totally disagre with the title of this thread. It makes absolutley no sense. Sampling is cool at times but the beauty of the art of producing/making beats is the art of creating a unique sound.

Making a beat from absolute scratch that nobody has heard of is where true creativity lies.

Think about it. When you first heard Manny Fresh's production on Juveniles 400 Degreez. Or when you heard Swizz beatz' production on DMX's "Its Dark and He'll is hot" or "Flesh of my flesh" or Timbalands early production on Aalyiah, Missy, Ginuwine and Playas albums.

We had never heard anything like that. They weren't using samples. Now adays you don't need to know how to play a musical instrument to make hot beats. There are 15 and 16 yr old kids with 'Garage Band' and 'pro tools' that are creating dope shyt on a laptop and have beats on bilboard. So sampling isn't realy a necessity

OK but Early Swizz was trash, We just liked it., bad taste in music I guess. And while you are naming three producers, how many producers sound the same right now?

 

[Mr. Somebody]

They killed alot of music programs in the black community so friends grew up on drum machines.

They took Comic View of BET. Now, our comedic talent pool is down.