Im genuinely curious - do you sincerely think the man with the bike was 100% wrong in his action? Had I been there watching this live, a part of me would have been thoroughly confused by what I saw - specifically the big man in gray beating down the guy with the bike first versus grabbing the woman first.
I learn a lot about men's mindsets on this site, and this take was a bit confusing. I understand the implications of what you have said, though. What accountability do you think the woman ought to have held in this encounter though?
It was impressed upon me repeatedly as a girl to never put my hands on boys. I bucked against this advice once in 7th grade and quickly found myself on the ground getting hit repeatedly by a male classmate until the teacher broke it up.
Prior to him jumping on me, he had told me to stop vexing him (I was kicking him under the desk to annoy him). I honestly didn't think he would do anything; looking back, I'm not sure as to why that was. Once it was over though, I was embarrassed and had only myself to blame. We both got suspended.
Perhaps he came from a home where his mama told him to keep his hand off of girls, just like I was from one where I was told not to hit boys. But what was he to do when I repeatedly kicked him despite him telling me to stop? How does that conflict with your parents telling you to defend yourself from any person who is hurting you as a child?
He could have told the teacher, and that probably could have ended it. This wasn't normally my way of acting either....I was just being a pest that particular day. I was disrespectful in ignoring him. I was even more so in assuming he would take it, too. Maybe I caught him on the wrong day. In any event, he didn't snap until I kept pushing him.
We were kids, but even then, I had someone telling me to keep my hands to myself, period, unless I was ready to fight. I was to keep my hands off males specifically because they are stronger and can do more damage. We had all seen boys fight as kids and know how they do. So, as a girl, some part of you already knows what could happen if a man turns those hands on you. And yet, if I'm honest, we might have still felt inclined to push because the same ladies who were telling me not to hit men were telling their sons not to hit girls. What about people telling their girls that boys should hold back altogether though?
It is a lot and it sounds confusing, but the gist of it is that most of us ladies know better. We nust do it anyway, relying on your tendency to show restraint because we have been told you should. Society backs us up, too. Some might bank more on you doing what you were told than them doing what they should themselves. Honestly though, people, period, ought not hit one another.. Anytime a woman or a man hits someone, there should be an expectation of violence in response.
I learned that day in middle school and I'm not hitting a man like that unless either mine or my kid's lives are on the line because it is wrong to assume a man wouldn't lay me out. Living in a world of suppositions could be dangerous; I now assume everyone - male or female - is going to aim to do their worse if attacked.
I don't know what the solution is. I don't advocate for women or men, period, squaring up over bullshyt. But there has to be a line. Having seen women square up with and assault my loved ones who are male, I can't say I'm inclined to agree to some extent. When men are taught to exercise restraint as boys, it is supposed to be tempered by ladies knowing they shouldn't be hitting men like that. So, when the random disrespectful outburst occurs, you can check it.
But when you have many ladies showing disrespect en masse, then what?
Cause it's you, I read the whole thing.
And this is my response. I'm not saying that men shouldn't defend themselves from women. If you attacked me, for instance, I'm not going to stand there and let you keep going upside my head with my hands down defenseless. I'm saying that I wouldn't do anything that would seriously hurt you.
See, I was taught that a woman trying to fight a man isn't a "fight". There's no way she can win that. So why even go through with it? I can easily restrain 99% of women who try to attack me. As long as she doesn't have a weapon, I can make her back up off of me either by pushing her down, grabbing her, or maybe even giving her an open hand slap (I'm not above slapping a hoe
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But having an all out brawl with a chic?
No, babe. Just no. That's beneath me. I would never waste my time or energy fighting a woman. It's ridiculous. The very thought of it is ridiculous to any real man.
Again, I'm allowing for a man restraining you, throwing you to the ground, shaking you, or slapping the hell out of you.
But squaring up and trading blows with a woman?
huh??
No, no no no no, not me. And I agree with what you said about the bad behavior of women. All y'all women get out of line at some point, and many of you try to put your hands on a man because you're hoping that you're dealing with a man that won't hit you back.
And that has led to many a woman getting the hell beat out of her. It's stupid for y'all to even do that. You'll never win a fight with a man, so what is the point? If the point ain't to win the fight, and it's an assured loss, then why would you engage?
As far as the video, the bike dude had every right to defend himself. I even said, I'll give him the first punch. She had that coming. But he wasn't stopping. Dude was throwing combos. He stunned her with the first punch, she fell back off-balance, and he kept coming.
He could have gave her that one hit and been done with it, and the big dude probably wouldn't have gotten involved. But he wasn't trying to give her one hit. He was trying to hand out an ass whipping to a woman.
I disagree with that. Most real men disagree with that.
You'll see these involuntarily celibate (incel) boys on the coli agreeing with that type of behavior, because many of them hold bitterness towards women anyway, due to being rejected by y'all. They WANT a reason to beat up on a woman.
Me? Not so much. Another thing a man has to think about is... what if she has a bf and he gets involved? What if she has a father or brothers and they get involved? They ain't gon come up and try to find out "what happened". They're going to see their sister, or daughter with her face lumped up and bleeding, and then they're ready to go in the trunk on dude.
I can tell you right now, my sister is foolish. When we were young adults, she tried to fight me. I said something to her that made her so upset that she had a moment of temporary insanity and tried to fight me.
In the moment, I didn't think she was trying to fight me. I thought she was trying to kill me. The look of rage in her eyes (you know that look that y'all women get when somebody sets y'all off and you're all emotional) was real, and it looked like true, deep hatred in that moment.
It actually caught me off guard like
because like I said, she was seriously trying to hurt me.
But all I did was throw her down and restrain her until she saw she couldn't win.
But with that being said, let my sister come to me at any point in time and tell me that a man put his hands on her. I would take that nicca up out this world, no cap. She has brothers and a father that would handle that for her.
I know how women do. Y'all push us and push us and then when we finally snap, y'all cry victim. But with that being said, each man has to have enough restraint within himself to just walk away.
When I get that angry with my woman, I leave. Because it's not worth it. I'm not about to put my hands on her, even though she has took me to that brink several times. But I'm not going to do that.
I'd rather just go out and get some fresh air and get away from her for a while, because I don't want to do something that I would later regret. And I would definitely regret that later.
People should fight equals. You don't fight people who don't have a chance of winning. It's funny that the same people in this thread advocating for a man fighting a woman, are the same men crying about Will Smith being 6'2, 200 lbs, and smacking Chris Rock who is 5'10 and maybe 170.
They see the size difference there but want to pretend as if they don't see the size difference between a man and a woman. If a Will Smith/Chris Rock fight is an unfair fight, then how is a man/woman fight a fair fight?
But that's the hypocrisy of the coli. I'm used to it.
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