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Who are they going to drop the NXT belts to? Screams of a spur of the moment call up. Especially like those who said are they going to change their NXT names when they reappear? Their entrance was totally flat too.I feel like Riddle might end up on SD.:patrice:
 
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Call them whatever you want brehs


They still beat hawkins and Ryder ass, and pinned the champs in their first match convincingly


But nikkas wanna cry bout Michael Cole calling them some other shyt. wrestling fans are the biggest weirdos

Names can make or break a guy’s career.

Imagine if stone cold went with fang mcfrost or Otto Von ruthless instead, dude would have been dead in the water.:hhh:
 

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Who are they going to drop the NXT belts to?

Undisputed midgets are probably the only takeover calibre tag team left, but they already had 2 reigns and been in NXT forever.

I don't think Street Profits have worked any long matches and the only other team I can remember are the forgotten sons who get zero reactions.
 

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Who are they going to drop the NXT belts to? Screams of a spur of the moment call up. Especially like those who said are they going to change their NXT names when they reappear? Their entrance was totally flat too.I feel like Riddle might end up on SD.:patrice:

Undisputed Era prolly gonna get em back
 

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I'm talking creatively, not the territory takeover. He absolutely had his runs, but Vince has always had a tendency to get a 1, maybe 2 good ideas, run them into the ground, then wait for the next good idea to come around while Rome slowly burns around him.

Late 80s run was great until the boom from the territory/talent consolidation waned, then it went fallow for a half decade.

Late 90s run was the product of him essentially being forced to change or die due to WCW, ECW, and bad mid-90s booking/steroid scandal fallout/etc.. The company produced massive amounts of legendary stuff between 1997 and 2001, but watch WWF in 1999 and tell me it wasn't kind of shyt.

And then from 2001 on it's been diminishing returns for Vince and the WWE. Funny how that happens when you no longer have any real companies to cannibalize or competition to work against.

My point being, creatively (and Black Saturday, while a huge business coup, was also a huge failure of insight and creativity), the more I think about it, the less I buy into this whole "Vince is a genius" narrative. His marketing and business savvy is insane, especially during the 80s and some of which even shows today (the fact that WWE is probably never going to die due to him and others ensuring that the non-wrestling aspects of the company are perpetual money makers is ridiculous), but I've seen enough to make me question him on the other side of the coin.

You throw out Black Saturday and that can be countered with Rock N' Wrestling. Which is the type of stuff promoters and bookers dreamed of having done. Every great booker hanged their legacy on 1-3 awesome ideas that they ran to the ground. The type of analysis you are doing for Cokeboy could be done for any other famous booker and they would end up looking worse because their runs were so fukking short compared to him. Baba and Verne Gagne were the only ones who had that kind of tenure and if you put them under the microscope like that, they'll look funny in the light too.

"Genius" depends on your take on the word. But there's a HUGE fukking gag between "genius" and "barely ever had it". Saying the latter for Vince is insane.
 

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all the most recent big, costumed tag teams that are supposed to come in squashing everyone have been dead on arrival. new day and usos were able to get/stay over because they could talk and be funny and show personality but the AoP, Ascension, VIKING EXPERIENCES of the world are finished in the current climate of 50/50 + wanting to fit everyone into the same PG, kid-friendly boxes. as a tag team you have to create your own lane because creative isn't gonna set the table at all for you.
 
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