The Viking Experience brehs

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People going into conniptions about Vince losing it in the RAW thread need to realize that Vince has been losing it for nearly two decades.

shyt, Vince barely even had it, really. His bad ideas far outweigh his good ones, going as far back as the Black Saturday debacle of 1984-85.

The sooner people realize this and get on with their lives, the better off they'll be.
 

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At least they didn't bury them mid debut like they did with The Ascension. They changed their colorway from Black/White to Black/Red and gave them shoulder pads and had them cut a pre-match promo about being better than LOD then JBL a heel proceeded to shyt on them for it like the whole thing was their idea:deadmanny:
 

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People going into conniptions about Vince losing it in the RAW thread need to realize that Vince has been losing it for nearly two decades.

shyt, Vince barely even had it, really. His bad ideas far outweigh his good ones, going as far back as the Black Saturday debacle of 1984-85.

The sooner people realize this and get on with their lives, the better off they'll be.

:stopitslime:

Vince takeover of the territories during the mid 80's - that took WAY more inventive stuff than just taking talent all over the place if you actually read about it -, his late 80's run and his 97' to 00' run shyt ALL OVER any other promoter and booker ever in terms of striking while the iron was hot and making the most out of his ideas.

Every booker has more bad ideas than good ones (even Baba, who was like Einstein of this shyt). Vince been one for 4 decades now.

Like, I get your point but GTFOH with the "he barely ever hadi it" stuff breh :camby:
 

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:stopitslime:

Vince takeover of the territories during the mid 80's - that took WAY more inventive stuff than just taking talent all over the place if you actually read about it -, his late 80's run and his 97' to 00' run shyt ALL OVER any other promoter and booker ever in terms of striking while the iron was hot and making the most out of his ideas.

Every booker has more bad ideas than good ones (even Baba, who was like Einstein of this shyt). Vince been one for 4 decades now.

Like, I get your point but GTFOH with the "he barely ever hadi it" stuff breh :camby:

I'm talking creatively, not the territory takeover. He absolutely had his runs, but Vince has always had a tendency to get a 1, maybe 2 good ideas, run them into the ground, then wait for the next good idea to come around while Rome slowly burns around him.

Late 80s run was great until the boom from the territory/talent consolidation waned, then it went fallow for a half decade.

Late 90s run was the product of him essentially being forced to change or die due to WCW, ECW, and bad mid-90s booking/steroid scandal fallout/etc.. The company produced massive amounts of legendary stuff between 1997 and 2001, but watch WWF in 1999 and tell me it wasn't kind of shyt.

And then from 2001 on it's been diminishing returns for Vince and the WWE. Funny how that happens when you no longer have any real companies to cannibalize or competition to work against.

My point being, creatively (and Black Saturday, while a huge business coup, was also a huge failure of insight and creativity), the more I think about it, the less I buy into this whole "Vince is a genius" narrative. His marketing and business savvy is insane, especially during the 80s and some of which even shows today (the fact that WWE is probably never going to die due to him and others ensuring that the non-wrestling aspects of the company are perpetual money makers is ridiculous), but I've seen enough to make me question him on the other side of the coin.
 

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Call them whatever you want brehs


They still beat hawkins and Ryder ass, and pinned the champs in their first match convincingly


But nikkas wanna cry bout Michael Cole calling them some other shyt. wrestling fans are the biggest weirdos
 
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