The Underappreciated Genius Of K-Rino's Song Deprogrammed

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What is it that you like so much about it ? Are you from Houston ?
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Name any successful rappers who've been inspired or have been seen as the next K-Rino ?

He just seems like an amateur in comparison to other rappers.... nothing really "wows" you
about him. Not his storytelling, not his flow, not his metaphors, not his punchlines and certainly
not his piss poor production even his "message" has been done by others better

Farting along for 30 years in relative obscurity with no progression whatsoever - just reeks of
complacency and sheer laziness.



This is just sad breh
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What is it I like about him so much? The incredible lyrical ability, the incredible MC ability, the content, the emotionally touching songs, the conceptuality, the stories, the rawness and honesty, the wittiness, the vocabulary usage, the array of flows and styles, the aggressive content, the uplifting content, the artistic integrity that makes him make an effort with each CD, nothing is just half assed, there's too many positive qualities for me to name why I like his music for me to fully mention all of them. And me being from or not from Houston is irrelevant, there are many people who like/love his music worldwide.

Ok, Z-Ro, Chamillionaire, Triple 6 Mafia, David Banner, Scarface, Trae The Truth, Killer Mike, Bun B, Scarface, Willie D, even the original Ghetto Boys he had competition with 1 of the members in particular where they inspired eachother, Dope E, Gangxster Nip, Devin The Dude, and that's not even going into the numerous young MC's he's inspired worldwide, again I could make a list of them there are so many. It doesn't sound like you really know what you're talking about.

Again, you're talking about others, name me specifics about solely K-Rino and I will deal with your points.

Lol, you clearly don't know what you're talking about, he has multi MILLIONS of views on youtube, tours internationally, and is working with many great notable artists, if you don't see that as progression you are simply just hating. He has consistently increased his fan base over the years. If you don't think working with the likes of DJ Premier, Scarface etc is notable I don't know what to say, a legend such as Premo said he would LOVE to do an album with him and just in the last couple of days shouted him out on his radio show.

 
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What is it I like about him so much? The incredible lyrical ability, the incredible MC ability, the content, the emotionally touching songs, the conceptuality, the stories, the rawness and honesty, the wittiness, the vocabulary usage, the array of flows and styles, the aggressive content, the uplifting content, the artistic integrity that makes him make an effort with each CD, nothing is just half assed, there's too many positive qualities for me to name why I like his music for me to fully mention. And me being from or not from Houston is irrelevant, there are many people who like/love his music worldwide.

Ok, Z-Ro, Chamillionaire, Triple 6 Mafia, David Banner, Scarface, Trae The Truth, Killer Mike, Bun B, Scarface, Willie D, even the original Ghetto Boys he had competition with 1 of the members in particular where they inspired eachother, Dope E, Gangxster Nip, Devin The Dude, and that's not even going into the numerous young MC's he's inspired worldwide, again I could make a list of them there are so many. It doesn't sound like you really know what you're talking about.

Again, you're talking about others, name me specifics about solely K-Rino and I will deal with your points.

Lol, you clearly don't know what you're talking about, he has multi MILLIONS of views on youtube, tours internationally, and is working with many great notable artists, if you don't see that as progression you are simply just hating. He has consistently increased his fan base over the years. If you don't think working with the likes of DJ Premier, Scarface etc is notable I don't know what to say, a legend such as Premo said he would LOVE to do an album with him and just in the last couple of days shouted him out on his radio show.


He isn't incredible in that aspect.... his metaphors are mediocre, his flow is basic, the delivery is there, good mic presence and a good voice but again nothing "incredible"


"the content, the emotionally touching songs, the conceptuality, the stories, the rawness and honesty, the wittiness, the vocabulary usage, the array of flows and styles, the aggressive content, the uplifting content"

This is something you'd associate with Ghostface not K-Rino.


"the artistic integrity that makes him make an effort with each CD"

What effort? The production stinks....Little money if at all is invested into mixing and mastering of these projects.
Just amateur work and no respect for the listener

None of those rappers were ever hailed as the next K-Rino ... There's a reason breh
They may offer regional respect for being in the game so long but look at that list and
compare it to Rakim and KRS

I'm not hating, it's just that I hate mediocrity. PERIOD. Every old school rapper has that.
Fact is Slick Rick, Rakim, KRS, BDK etc all sold a sh!t load more records and have more
acclaim and a better skillset/legacy than K-Rino.

It's been 30 years and he's still in the same boat....that sound like progression to you ?


Where's the receipts ? Show us the collabos breh.... Prem washed now
Why didn't they duo in the 90s at the peak of his career ?
 

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He isn't incredible in that aspect.... his metaphors are mediocre, his flow is basic, the delivery is there, good mic presence and a good voice but again nothing "incredible"


"the content, the emotionally touching songs, the conceptuality, the stories, the rawness and honesty, the wittiness, the vocabulary usage, the array of flows and styles, the aggressive content, the uplifting content"

This is something you'd associate with Ghostface not K-Rino.


"the artistic integrity that makes him make an effort with each CD"

What effort? The production stinks....Little money if at all is invested into mixing and mastering of these projects.
Just amateur work and no respect for the listener

None of those rappers were ever hailed as the next K-Rino ... There's a reason breh
They may offer regional respect for being in the game so long but look at that list and
compare it to Rakim and KRS

I'm not hating, it's just that I hate mediocrity. PERIOD. Every old school rapper has that.
Fact is Slick Rick, Rakim, KRS, BDK etc all sold a sh!t load more records and have more
acclaim and a better skillset/legacy than K-Rino.

It's been 30 years and he's still in the same boat....that sound like progression to you ?


Where's the receipts ? Show us the collabos breh.... Prem washed now
Why didn't they duo in the 90s at the peak of his career ?

How much have you heard? Because everything you are saying indicates the answer is not much and are making sweeping generalisations based off a few songs...

What I want to do is show you songs and you tell me what your issues are with them, taking out beats because as I said that's subjective, I'm talking about what K-Rino does lyrically and MC wise.

His flow isn't basic at all, again this is where it seems like you haven't heard much, he has many flows that numerous other rappers couldn't do, and he can do the shyt live too...

And again this is subjective opinion, we should delve MUCH deeper into this topic.

Also please answer my question, how much have you heard of his work? And attempt to be honest...

Your next "point" again indicates you haven't heard much of his work, he has extremely honest emotional material, again I could show you the songs and you could explain to me why not. Cause that's what we have to get down to.

The effort in terms of the productivity, creativity, lyrical mastery and craftsmanship, storytelling, content, innovation and MC'in ability on an extremely high level.

That's not what I said, I said influenced/inspired, basically you had your points obliterated and now are deviating and trying to duck and dodge and flip the script. And infact Chamillionaire has been compared to a young K-Rino, Z-Ro says K-Rino is his main/only influence, plus you can hear it.

Nothing to do with that when Canibus, DJ Premier and many others who don't rep H Town give respect too. Spice 1, T-La Rock the list goes on...

That's not a fact, that's your subjective opinion, Vanilla Ice has probably also sold more records than Kane, does that make him better? Nope...

Ok and that's pure and simply a lie cause he's not in the same boat at all..

What are you asking for receipts of? And please don't ignore this question. Of his collabs with some of the artists I named?



"My only influence is a man called K-Rino, that is the hardest nikka in rap period" - Z-Ro
 
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How much have you heard? Because everything you are saying indicates the answer is not much and are making sweeping generalisations based off a few songs...

What I want to do is show you songs and you tell me what your issues are with them, taking out beats because as I said that's subjective, I'm talking about what K-Rino does lyrically and MC wise.

His flow isn't basic at all, again this is where it seems like you haven't heard much, he has many flows that numerous other rappers couldn't do, and he can do the shyt live too...

And again this is subjective opinion, we should delve MUCH deeper into this topic.

Also please answer my question, how much have you heard of his work? And attempt to be honest...

Your next "point" again indicates you haven't heard much of his work, he has extremely honest emotional material, again I could show you the songs and you could explain to me why not. Cause that's what we have to get down to.

The effort in terms of the productivity, creativity, lyrical mastery and craftsmanship, storytelling, content, innovation and MC'in ability on an extremely high level.

That's not what I said, I said influenced/inspired, basically you had your points obliterated and now are deviating and trying to duck and dodge and flip the script. And infact Chamillionaire has been compared to a young K-Rino, Z-Ro says K-Rino is his main/only influence, plus you can hear it.

Nothing to do with that when Canibus, DJ Premier and many others who don't rep H Town give respect too. Spice 1, T-La Rock the list goes on...

That's not a fact, that's your subjective opinion, Vanilla Ice has probably also sold more records than Kane, does that make him better? Nope...

Ok and that's pure and simply a lie cause he's not in the same boat at all..

What are you asking for receipts of? And please don't ignore this question. Of his collabs with some of the artists I named?




I have Slick Rick, Rakim and KRS ...what use is K-Rino ?

For a legend you have to be revered and have a legacy or some accomplishments

He forced himself into the wilderness in the golden age of Hiphop and has been
stuck there for 30 years.

No offense but I want my rappers to get paid handsomely for their craft and their efforts
if you are a sadist then you probably won't understand that but it must hurt to see
these amateur videos and listen to poor production. it's a waste of potential


K-Rino has yet to make a song with DJ Premier...... and why now ? Maybe K-Rino
would view that as "selling out" and "losing creative control"

What other rappers do you listen to imho ? i'm done talking about this underachiever
 

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I have Slick Rick, Rakim and KRS ...what use is K-Rino ?

For a legend you have to be revered and have a legacy or some accomplishments

He forced himself into the wilderness in the golden age of Hiphop and has been
stuck there for 30 years.

No offense but I want my rappers to get paid handsomely for their craft and their efforts
if you are a sadist then you probably won't understand that but it must hurt to see
these amateur videos and listen to poor production. it's a waste of potential


K-Rino has yet to make a song with DJ Premier...... and why now ? Maybe K-Rino
would view that as "selling out" and "losing creative control"

What other rappers do you listen to imho ? i'm done talking about this underachiever

That is an extremely ignorant, backwards, warped logic. Cause you have 3 great artists why should you be bothered with a 4th? Really? Lol. Is this your "point"? You aren't doing a very good job of expressing the troll side at all lol, might need to send the next troll to be dealt with as I see later you're backing down cause you don't wanna delve deeper into it where you can be FURTHER proven wrong.

He does have a legacy, and is highly revered, he was inducted into The Houston Music Hall Of Fame, 1 of the only rappers ever to be do so...



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K-RINO

K-Rino first appears exactly 29 pages into Houston Rap, Peter Beste and Lance Scott Walker's heavily illustrated, hardbound 2013 oral history that, immediately upon its release, became the essential document of local hip-hop culture. As he usually is, the rapper is already firing on all eight cylinders.

"Ever since black people came to this country from day one -- even before we came -- there was always a conspiracy, if you want to use that word, to destroy us," K-Rino says.

And that right there is what trips a lot of people up. Rappers just aren't supposed to talk about stuff like that, not when the politically minded likes of Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions were selling respectable numbers of records, and certainly not today.

But back in those years is also when K-Rino (born Eric Kaiser) went from winning rap battles at Sterling High School to co-founding the South Park Coalition, Houston's first true and arguably still most important rap collective. The late DJ Screw was an SPC alumnus, as are Dope-E, Ganksta NIP, Klondike Kat, Z-Ro and probably five dozen others. (Among today's better-known Houston rappers, the Mo City Don is probably K-Rino's biggest booster.)
"There are stories about him and Ganksta NIP battling on street corners with like lightning and shyt," says Optimo Ram, also one of K-Rino's main local champions via his Internet portal Optimo Radio. "It's all dramatic."

By Ram's reckoning, between group SPC efforts and solos, K-Rino has released some 30 albums, from Comin' Out Doggin' in the late '80s through more recent works The Maven, Annihilation of the Evil Machine and last year's Plantation Rebellion; he released four albums in 2008 alone. But the way K-Rino delivers his messages is equally astonishing. He manipulates words, syllables and rhythms in ways that his would-be peers aren't even capable of.

"There's a song called "Perpetual Ascension" [that] gets harder and harder, and he's hitting you with these metaphors about being in outer space, punching you into another dimension," says Ram. "Nobody raps about stuff like that.

"He has [another] song called 'Two Sides to a Story,' where each bar is two different stories," he continues. "The first part of the bar is a story and the second part of the bar is a different story. So one's like about a spaceship, and one's about getting robbed in the hood."

In 2009, the Press' Shea Serrano called K-Rino "a genius who happens to be a rapper." But you'll never hear that from him. K-Rino may be the most gifted MC in Houston history, but he's easily the most humble as well. A devout Muslim who still lives in South Park, abstains from drink and drugs of any kind and, Ram says, loves little more than a good game of hoops, K-Rino shuns media attention and pretty much anything else that comes with stardom -- including, tragically perhaps, the big sales someone of his immense talents perhaps deserves.

"He's such a humble and good person," Ram says. "But if you measure him against anybody else, he's just way better when you break down what hip-hop is -- lyrics and the beat and all that kind of stuff. He is scientifically better than anybody. There's nothing like it." [Note: this section has been modified after original publication to correct Ram's name and the titles of "Perpetual Ascension" and Comin' Out Doggin'.]

Do the knowledge...

Scarface said he is the best rapper ever from H Town, MANY have called him a legend, countless to even name, he is called a legend in nearly every interview, he is regarded as a legend straight up, which he is...

Ok, well if you judge a music artist on how much they get paid then you may go away and listen to Vanillia Ice, Soulja Boy and whatever other artists have been paid handsomely, and I will listen based off the actual music.

K-Rino HAS made a song with DJ Premier, this is a fact, Lil Fame is on it too, it's called Introduction To Manhood and it will be on the new NYG'Z album, this is straight directly from Premo. Next point makes zero sense and you just sound desperate now lol.

You're done cause you got destroyed, that's the sole reason, another victory @The Beast .

But I will answer your question...

2 Pac, Nas, Jay Z, Cormega, Biggie, Big Pun, AZ, Raekwon, Canibus, Immortal Technique, Brother Ali, Chuck D/Public Enemy, Mobb Deep, Wu Tang, Z-Ro, Lauryn Hill, Queen Latifah, Bahamadia, Gangstarr, Last Emperor, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool Moe Dee, Melle Mel, Devastating Tito, Fat Joe, T-La Rock, LL Cool J, Fashawn, Blu, Scarface, Geto Boys, KRS-One, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Chino XL, Bone Thugs N Harmony, Bizzy Bone solo, Guru solo, Emanon, Lowkey, Kontext, Beanie Sigel, Organized Konfusion, Pharohe, Thug Life, Talib Kweli, Big L, Blackstar, Chris Rivers, Dr Dre, Snoop, Saigon, Ras Kass, Jadakiss, Jay Electronica, Brand Nubian, particularly Puba solo, Shyne, Jedi Mind Tricks, Kanye West, Afu Ra, Killah Preist, Atmosphere, Grandmaster Caz, Cuban Link, Tragedy Khadafi...

100's and 1000's, far too many to list....

And out of all those MC's, and knowing and hearing 1000's and 1000's MC's over decades I have K-Rino in my top 3, that just shows how GREAT K-Rino is....

 
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That is an extremely ignorant, backwards, warped logic. Cause you have 3 great artists why should you be bothered with a 4th? Really? Lol. Is this your "point"? You aren't doing a very good job of expressing the troll side at all lol, might need to send the next troll to be dealt with as I see later you're backing down cause you don't wanna delve deeper into it where you can be FURTHER proven wrong.

He does have a legacy, and is highly revered, he was inducted into The Houston Music Hall Of Fame, 1 of the only rappers ever to be do so...



Photo by Marco Torres

K-RINO

K-Rino first appears exactly 29 pages into Houston Rap, Peter Beste and Lance Scott Walker's heavily illustrated, hardbound 2013 oral history that, immediately upon its release, became the essential document of local hip-hop culture. As he usually is, the rapper is already firing on all eight cylinders.

"Ever since black people came to this country from day one -- even before we came -- there was always a conspiracy, if you want to use that word, to destroy us," K-Rino says.

And that right there is what trips a lot of people up. Rappers just aren't supposed to talk about stuff like that, not when the politically minded likes of Public Enemy and Boogie Down Productions were selling respectable numbers of records, and certainly not today.

But back in those years is also when K-Rino (born Eric Kaiser) went from winning rap battles at Sterling High School to co-founding the South Park Coalition, Houston's first true and arguably still most important rap collective. The late DJ Screw was an SPC alumnus, as are Dope-E, Ganksta NIP, Klondike Kat, Z-Ro and probably five dozen others. (Among today's better-known Houston rappers, the Mo City Don is probably K-Rino's biggest booster.)
"There are stories about him and Ganksta NIP battling on street corners with like lightning and shyt," says Optimo Ram, also one of K-Rino's main local champions via his Internet portal Optimo Radio. "It's all dramatic."

By Ram's reckoning, between group SPC efforts and solos, K-Rino has released some 30 albums, from Comin' Out Doggin' in the late '80s through more recent works The Maven, Annihilation of the Evil Machine and last year's Plantation Rebellion; he released four albums in 2008 alone. But the way K-Rino delivers his messages is equally astonishing. He manipulates words, syllables and rhythms in ways that his would-be peers aren't even capable of.

"There's a song called "Perpetual Ascension" [that] gets harder and harder, and he's hitting you with these metaphors about being in outer space, punching you into another dimension," says Ram. "Nobody raps about stuff like that.

"He has [another] song called 'Two Sides to a Story,' where each bar is two different stories," he continues. "The first part of the bar is a story and the second part of the bar is a different story. So one's like about a spaceship, and one's about getting robbed in the hood."

In 2009, the Press' Shea Serrano called K-Rino "a genius who happens to be a rapper." But you'll never hear that from him. K-Rino may be the most gifted MC in Houston history, but he's easily the most humble as well. A devout Muslim who still lives in South Park, abstains from drink and drugs of any kind and, Ram says, loves little more than a good game of hoops, K-Rino shuns media attention and pretty much anything else that comes with stardom -- including, tragically perhaps, the big sales someone of his immense talents perhaps deserves.

"He's such a humble and good person," Ram says. "But if you measure him against anybody else, he's just way better when you break down what hip-hop is -- lyrics and the beat and all that kind of stuff. He is scientifically better than anybody. There's nothing like it." [Note: this section has been modified after original publication to correct Ram's name and the titles of "Perpetual Ascension" and Comin' Out Doggin'.]

Do the knowledge...

Scarface said he is the best rapper ever from H Town, MANY have called him a legend, countless to even name, he is called a legend in nearly every interview, he is regarded as a legend straight up, which he is...

Ok, well if you judge a music artist on how much they get paid then you may go away and listen to Vanillia Ice, Soulja Boy and whatever other artists have been paid handsomely, and I will listen based off the actual music.

K-Rino HAS made a song with DJ Premier, this is a fact, Lil Fame is on it too, it's called Introduction To Manhood and it will be on the new NYG'Z album, this is straight directly from Premo. Next point makes zero sense and you just sound desperate now lol.

You're done cause you got destroyed, that's the sole reason, another victory @The Beast .

But I will answer your question...

2 Pac, Nas, Jay Z, Cormega, Biggie, Big Pun, AZ, Raekwon, Canibus, Immortal Technique, Brother Ali, Chuck D/Public Enemy, Mobb Deep, Wu Tang, Z-Ro, Lauryn Hill, Queen Latifah, Bahamadia, Gangstarr, Last Emperor, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool Moe Dee, Melle Mel, Devastating Tito, Fat Joe, T-La Rock, LL Cool J, Fashawn, Blu, Scarface, Geto Boys, KRS-One, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Chino XL, Bone Thugs N Harmony, Bizzy Bone solo, Guru solo, Emanon, Lowkey, Kontext, Beanie Sigel, Organized Konfusion, Pharohe, Thug Life, Talib Kweli, Big L, Blackstar, Chris Rivers, Dr Dre, Snoop, Saigon, Ras Kass, Jadakiss, Jay Electronica, Brand Nubian, particularly Puba solo, Shyne, Jedi Mind Tricks, Kanye West, Afu Ra, Killah Preist, Atmosphere, Grandmaster Caz, Cuban Link, Tragedy Khadafi...

100's and 1000's, far too many to list....

And out of all those MC's, and knowing and hearing 1000's and 1000's MC's over decades I have K-Rino in my top 3, that just shows how GREAT K-Rino is....




I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone "extremely ignorant, backwards, warped logic" given how you've conducted yourself in this forum when it comes to K-Rino. I actually think you are trolling everyone here with this rhetoric that he's somehow this elite MC
who remained underground to keep creative control.....

You can't even see that he is doing you ( a fan) a disservice by putting out lackluster production and amateur videos
not only that- he's been doing it for 30 years. I'm backing down because there is no reasoning with blind conviction -
I do it in business but at least in that aspect , it yields tangible benefits.

Houston Music Hall Of Fame ? Big whoop.


Where is the track with DJ Premier ? and why now and not the 90s when Premier was working the Nas of the world.

The weirdest part is you actively listen to better skilled, more charismatic and more accomplished rappers and still
vehemently defend and attack anyone who doesn't see this underachiever for what he really is. A pig-headed
artist who releases amateur visuals and amateur projects

You can have your victory, your win means about as much K-Rinos place in Hiphop
 

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I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone "extremely ignorant, backwards, warped logic" given how you've conducted yourself in this forum when it comes to K-Rino. I actually think you are trolling everyone here with this rhetoric that he's somehow this elite MC
who remained underground to keep creative control
.....

This is exactly what he's done though...purposely...even Face said so...he had a direct pipeline to rap-a-lot and other indie-majors all throughout the 90's and opted instead to create his own label and learned how to press up and distribute his own discs via a label he owns 100% of...not everybody is comfortable with working UNDER others or at the discretion of others...there are some that prefer to be their own boss...he's fed, clothed & housed himself solely off of his own raps and own label without any logistical, promotional or financial support from the cac run hip-hop industry for the past 22 years or without having to attempt to latch onto big names in the industry to gain noteriety ...and has maintained consistent, high quality music and artistic integrity as far as content...whether he allowed and/or lobbied for his music to be promoted/distributed via cac outlets (which would've enhanced his mainstream profile) or not...the quality has remained...i refuse to acknowledge that a cac-run industry not putting their stamp on his music somehow denotes that it isn't high quality...which seems to be your POV... and some of the so-called "greats" you named in your posts above would never have been able to do what Rino's done in his career without the logistical, promotional & financial handout they were given via the cac-run industry...from the cac-run media, to the cac-run labels all the way to the prodominately cac hip-hop consumer....also, your measure of "success" & "quality" is all skewed up...particularly as it pertains to K-Rino's sub-genre of hip-hop.
 

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I think this thread might be K-rino's biggest career achievement :lolbron:

I'm kidding, but it's crazy how long thread has gone on. I made a Devin the Dude thread a couple years ago and it only made it to 4 pages :mjcry:
 

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This is exactly what he's done though...purposely...even Face said so...he had a direct pipeline to rap-a-lot and other indie-majors all throughout the 90's and opted instead to create his own label and learned how to press up and distribute his own discs via a label he owns 100% of...not everybody is comfortable with working UNDER others or at the discretion of others...there are some that prefer to be their own boss...he's fed, clothed & housed himself solely off of his own raps and own label without any logistical, promotional or financial support from the cac run hip-hop industry for the past 22 years or without having to attempt to latch onto big names in the industry to gain noteriety ...and has maintained consistent, high quality music and artistic integrity as far as content...whether he allowed and/or lobbied for his music to be promoted/distributed via cac outlets (which would've enhanced his mainstream profile) or not...the quality has remained...i refuse to acknowledge that a cac-run industry not putting their stamp on his music somehow denotes that it isn't high quality...which seems to be your POV... and some of the so-called "greats" you named in your posts above would never have been able to do what Rino's done in his career without the logistical, promotional & financial handout they were given via the cac-run industry...from the cac-run media, to the cac-run labels all the way to the prodominately cac hip-hop consumer....also, your measure of "success" & "quality" is all skewed up...particularly as it pertains to K-Rino's sub-genre of hip-hop.


It's not.... the visuals and mixing and mastering and beats are subpar. Therefore it's a deficient product and a terrible experience for any end consumer. He either doesn't care enough or can't afford it.
 

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It's not.... the visuals and mixing and mastering and beats are subpar. Therefore it's a deficient product and a terrible experience for any end consumer. He either doesn't care enough or can't afford it.

Stories From the Black Book
Danger Zone
Worst Rapper Alive
Triple Darkness Vol.2
Book Number 7
Solitary Confinement
Time Traveler

That's 7 albums with top notch sonics... and be giving the amp/12's a workout...if them thangs don't go thump in the trunk...i gotta question ya system specs player? :usure:
 

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Also that propaganda about K-Rino having generally have bad beats...nikkas need to :camby: wit that ignance...only on his more recent work is the production substandard...93-2012 Rino is GREAT trunk music







 

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I wouldn't be so quick to call anyone "extremely ignorant, backwards, warped logic" given how you've conducted yourself in this forum when it comes to K-Rino. I actually think you are trolling everyone here with this rhetoric that he's somehow this elite MC
who remained underground to keep creative control.....

You can't even see that he is doing you ( a fan) a disservice by putting out lackluster production and amateur videos
not only that- he's been doing it for 30 years. I'm backing down because there is no reasoning with blind conviction -
I do it in business but at least in that aspect , it yields tangible benefits.

Houston Music Hall Of Fame ? Big whoop.


Where is the track with DJ Premier ? and why now and not the 90s when Premier was working the Nas of the world.

The weirdest part is you actively listen to better skilled, more charismatic and more accomplished rappers and still
vehemently defend and attack anyone who doesn't see this underachiever for what he really is. A pig-headed
artist who releases amateur visuals and amateur projects

You can have your victory, your win means about as much K-Rinos place in Hiphop

I would, cause you are. You said you need the artists whose MUSIC you listen to to be rich, it's absolutely ridiculous and ignorant, and also highlights the programming mentioned in the original post. Yes let's ignore the music and check the bank balance :scust:

It is a fact, he had offers from Rap-A-Lot and many other labels actually but turned them down. Many people regard him as an elite MC, I could easily show you that.

I'm more than satisfied with every K-Rino purchase I've made as are many others and intend to purchase more albums, the great quality work he's given us I feel like have got a bargain so support in other ways too.

It is something that is an achievement and he has many achievements and is highly regarded worldwide. And is making money doing what he loves and what is his gift.

Lol when you say that you sound like you are trying to deny the validity of it, I told you what album it's on. I can prove it further if you insist but it's a fact from Premier himself. And maybe Premo didn't know about K-Rino then, but he does now and that just highlights the progression in awareness about him which you claim never existed. I have an in depth expertise on Hip Hop so when I say K-Rino is a GOAT artist it holds weight, you don't have to disagree, but it is a genuine knowledgeable opinion unlike yours. Yet again I see you don't want to discuss the actual music.

K-Rino is regarded as a pioneer, legend and 1 of the greatest ever artists by many, I'm sure he is satisfied with that.

 
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Also that propaganda about K-Rino having generally have bad beats...nikkas need to :camby: wit that ignance...only on his more recent work is the production substandard...93-2012 Rino is GREAT trunk music









I've just come back on after doing something and am reading what's being said now. I think the bad beats think is an easy excuse for people to label someone and conveniently ignore them to try be in denial about the fact he's vastly superior to most of their favourite rappers. I wouldn't even say his latter production has been bad, he has rapped over of plenty of beats I love. But it's whatever, subjective opinion's, what is undeniable to anybody knowledgeable is the lyrical ability being exceptional as well as the MC'in ability.
 

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I think this thread might be K-rino's biggest career achievement :lolbron:

I'm kidding, but it's crazy how long thread has gone on. I made a Devin the Dude thread a couple years ago and it only made it to 4 pages :mjcry:

Maybe you should have added K-Rino's track with Devin to get him more some attention, lol jokes. I think Devin is nice, never saw the thread.

 

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I would, cause you are. You said you need the artists whose MUSIC you listen to to be rich, it's absolutely ridiculous and ignorant, and also highlights the programming mentioned in the original post. Yes let's ignore the music and check the bank balance :scust:

It is a fact, he had offers from Rap-A-Lot and many other labels actually but turned them down. Many people regard him as an elite MC, I could easily show you that.

I'm more than satisfied with every K-Rino purchase I've made as are many others and intend to purchase more albums, the great quality work he's given us I feel like have got a bargain so support in other ways too.

It is something that is an achievement and he has many achievements and is highly regarded worldwide. And is making money doing what he loves and what is his gift.

Lol when you say that you sound like you are trying to deny the validity of it, I told you what album it's on. I can prove it further if you insist but it's a fact from Premier himself. And maybe Premo didn't know about K-Rino then, but he does now and that just highlights the progression in awareness about him which you claim never existed. I have an in depth expertise on Hip Hop so when I say K-Rino is a GOAT artist it holds weight, you don't have to disagree, but it is a genuine knowledgeable opinion unlike yours. Yet again I see you don't want to discuss the actual music.

K-Rino is regarded as a pioneer, legend and 1 of the greatest ever artists by many, I'm sure he is satisfied with that.



I like them to be duly compensated for their talent and effort there's a difference.....

If you don't think artist you like should get paid then I don't know what to tell you...

I've just come back on after doing something and am reading what's being said now. I think the bad beats think is an easy excuse for people to label someone and conveniently ignore them to try be in denial about the fact he's vastly superior to most of their favourite rappers. I wouldn't even say his latter production has been bad, he has rapped over of plenty of beats I love. But it's whatever, subjective opinion's, what is undeniable to anybody knowledgeable is the lyrical ability being exceptional as well as the MC'in ability.

It all makes sense now......:ohhh:

K-Rino is not vastly, superior to KRS, Slick Rick and BDK though

Never mind the GodMC Rakim Allah
 
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