The Tariq Nasheed Thread

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

He’s paying HOMAGE to your history. What is the problem?

quick question...where did FBA come from? were they always in the united states or are they africans who came to the US and interbred with the indigenous that crossed the bering straits?

i mean the kinky hair came from somewhere right? its a specific phenotype ain't it?

 

[Lord-Yosh]

But living a country with White people for so long has created that cultural connection. If a Black American went to an African party, everything is gonna look strange compared to if they went to a party with White Americans.

That's not true. You're just a c00n who feels safer around white people.

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

compare rap beefs to tribal warfare and genocide brehs you nikkas are mentally ill

i swear to god b...

 

[Fillerguy]

and ultimately Pan africaism is a dream and will never happen.

you nikkas are to fukkin old to still keep believing in this pipe dream.

some of you nonados nikkas who believe in it only do so because you were raised here in America and adopted ADOS identity. meanwhile yall prolly got parents, aunts, cousins back home who look down on ADOS or even the idea of being "Black"

and some of you ados nikkas have insecurity issues so some of yall latch onto africa to feel good about yourselves(lets be real about some of yall)

This the kind of cac brainwashing that will wipe us out....that somehow ADOS and Pan Afrcanism is mutually exclusive. That conspect would've been a foreign concept 30 years ago. But we live in a nation where our children are taught our enslaved ancestors where workers and their owners believed in Liberty and Equality.

Pan Africanism isnt new. This movement has been around for over 100 years. Many Black leaders looked to their African Roots post Civil War and started their own inspired communities. Liberia is the most famous example; there were small "little Africas" sprinkled all over America too.

 

[Wiseborn]

Its going to come to this. That, or Tariq denouncing Louis Farrakhan's message of black unity across the globe.

It's not Tariq, say what you want 'Riq ain't stupid to go at Farrakhan like Yvette did. It's his stans some goofy in another thread said Brother Marcus Garvey was an agent. I didn't even go in I was floored by that. holmes tripled down on it. If a fakkit called in to Riq's show bigging up FBA and said that about Garvey Tariq would clown him and hang up.

Garvey was a Jamaican but the c00n ass agent that spied on him for Hoover was an ADOS agent.

 

[Wild self]

compare rap beefs to tribal warfare and genocide brehs you nikkas are mentally ill

How? People died in those conflicts over petty shyt. Louis Farrakhan said that numerous times.

 

[Wild self]

It's not Tariq, say what you want 'Riq ain't stupid to go at Farrakhan like Yvette did. It's his stans some goofy in another thread said Brother Marcus Garvey was an agent. I didn't even go in I was floored by that. holmes tripled down on it. If a fakkit called in to Riq's show bigging up FBA and said that about Garvey Tariq would clown him and hang up.

Garvey was a Jamaican but the c00n ass agent that spied on him for Hoover was an ADOS agent.

Yeah, and numerous ADOS people dont even agree with Tariq and are full blown Pan Africanist. What do you call them? Sellouts?

 

[Lord-Yosh]

How? People died in those conflicts over petty shyt. Louis Farrakhan said that numerous times.

Never quote me again fakkit. I wish your family had died in any of those conflicts.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

You're correct. But maybe just maybe similar people came to the same conclusion at different times. I mean in Martin Delany's day Africa was largely unknown all he knew was something had to be done to get away from the cracka.

But if it's an ADOS idea why shyt on it? Brothers and sisters thought long and hard about it and in the Ma Rainey Thread living in a lot of places in the states where intolerable. There's absolutely nothing stopping white folks from implemently Jim Crow again. If they did maybe just maybe elsewhere might be an option.

It was for a lot of ADOS artists in the 30's through the 50's.

Delany actually went to Africa

By 1854, the National Emigration Convention was organized in Cleveland, Ohio, with Delany presiding. This group gained significant momentum and by 1856 commissioned Delany to put together a team to travel to Africa to establish settlement. Also in 1856, Delany moved his family to Chatham, Canada West (Ontario, Canada). Soon after, he travelled to Liberia and then Nigeria to negotiate land leases among the Abeokuta in Yoruba land of the modern day Omo State. Delany was successful in his negotiations only to be thwarted by British colonial agents and the coming U.S. Civil War.

Rare Martin Delany Signed Document | Blog | History Center

 

[Asante]

quick question...where did FBA come from? were they always in the united states or are they africans who came to the US and interbred with the indigenous that crossed the bering straits?

i mean the kinky hair came from somewhere right? its a specific phenotype ain't it?

Why are you responding to the same quote twice? The African lineage(s) that FBA's come from are African, and that has never been disputed. What is your fukking point? Like when the African migrated from Nile Valley civilization (assuming that you are familiar with the FBA C. William's work) and various ethnic groups began to break off and form identities of their own.

The FBA comes from the aboriginal Africans who came to the America's founding the "Olmec"/Xi civilization, and who mixed in with the distinct other black lineage of the Australoid populations who were the first here. This African lineage was reinforced a century before Columbus with the Muslim settlements via the Moors-Malians empire. The third string were the ones forcibly brought here by the Europeans. This combination of lineage is the FBA. Truth be told many of the other disapora in the Americas have the same aboriginal lineage.

 

[Wiseborn]

can you have it both ways?

both pay homage and disparage africans and non FBA as a whole?

makes it seem as if he's purely in it for profit don't it?

It certainly seems that way when just a few years ago you were praising Haiti and made a whole movie about it. It seems like he made his money and dropped it.

The whole Hidden Colors series examined racism worldwide The scholars he used were Pan Africanists. I mean Brother James Smalls has proerty in Ghana.


It'd be different if he said I was wrong and here's why. But he can't do that not ever.

Maybe he can say that it was satire.

 

[Amerikan Melanin]

Idiots act like you can’t be pan African and FBA at the same time.

FBA is the same as identifying as Jamaican or Haitian.

FBA is just pulling out the mirror for all foreign c00ns. Stop talking shyt about us and then stealing our culture and undermining our politics.

Allow us to get our house in order. We don’t flock to Nigeria telling y’all how to run your country or what to demand from your govt while undermining and starting tribal beefs.

 

[Wiseborn]

Delany actually went to Africa



Rare Martin Delany Signed Document | Blog | History Center

I know that but the interior wasn't fully mapped at that time period.

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

Never quote me again fakkit. I wish your family had died in any of those conflicts.

c'mon now breh wishing death on brehs...smh

 

[Wild self]

Never quote me again fakkit. I wish your family had died in any of those conflicts.

Bringing smoke towards me, and not to CACs.

Black people dying in conflicts, whether its tribal or rap beefs, is senseless.