The Sopranos Series - Re-Watch (Spoilers!!!)

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Nah, you guys are trippin. This show isnt it. Im halfway through season 3, and its not hittin at all. Unless you guys gonna tell me the show picks up from here.

Weak gangsters, heavy racism from your so called heroes, and bad acting.
It just ain’t for you. :manny:

S2 is where the magic really starts to happen. If you’re on the third season currently and still ain’t feeling it, then its best to cut your losses.
 

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It just ain’t for you. :manny:

S2 is where the magic really starts to happen. If you’re on the third season currently and still ain’t feeling it, then its best to cut your losses.

you can say what you want but no one can deny the acting on the Sopranos...that criticism just bullshyt to me

James putting on a better performance than whole casts of shows
 
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Nah, you guys are trippin. This show isnt it. Im halfway through season 3, and its not hittin at all. Unless you guys gonna tell me the show picks up from here.

Weak gangsters, heavy racism from your so called heroes, and bad acting.

what shows do you like breh?

Weakening of the mob (mirroring the weakening of “Americana”) is a central theme of the show…they’re not supposed to be heroes or god-like.

it’d be unrealistic if these characters were liberal and inviting to black ppl…plus the time period of the late 90s-mid 2000s with brainwashed “patriotism”

did you like the wire at least?
 

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what shows do you like breh?

Weakening of the mob (mirroring the weakening of “Americana”) is a central theme of the show…they’re not supposed to be heroes or god-like.

it’d be unrealistic if these characters were liberal and inviting to black ppl…plus the time period of the late 90s-mid 2000s with brainwashed “patriotism”

did you like the wire at least?

I love The Wire. The comparisons between Wire and Sopranos both being god-tier rated is what has me trying to see it through on the Sopranos.

The characters just arent hitting on this show. I havent seen a show this highly regarded with such waste of space characters (Tony's mother and sister are terrible. Both AJ and Meadow havent really had any big stories either)

I dig the Tony/therapy angle, but really everything around it isnt good. The 'gangsters' are all old, and they whole show, they are basically warring against each other.

I must have miss it then, what are suppose to be the high spots in season 2? Livia Soprano and the uncle trying to kill Tony? The mom having a stroke and being in the hospital all season? All the dream sequences? Drea De Matteo trying to start a music producer career? Big p*ssy and the wire tap? Is this the best season of the show?
 

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you can say what you want but no one can deny the acting on the Sopranos...that criticism just bullshyt to me

James putting on a better performance than whole casts of shows
Yup, and these aren’t heroes either. We see some good human qualities from the guys when they’re at home with their families, but they’re all sensitive gangsters who operate in vile ways at the end of the day.
 
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I love The Wire. The comparisons between Wire and Sopranos both being god-tier rated is what has me trying to see it through on the Sopranos.

The characters just arent hitting on this show. I havent seen a show this highly regarded with such waste of space characters (Tony's mother and sister are terrible. Both AJ and Meadow havent really had any big stories either)

I dig the Tony/therapy angle, but really everything around it isnt good. The 'gangsters' are all old, and they whole show, they are basically warring against each other.

I must have miss it then, what are suppose to be the high spots in season 2? Livia Soprano and the uncle trying to kill Tony? The mom having a stroke and being in the hospital all season? All the dream sequences? Drea De Matteo trying to start a music producer career? Big p*ssy and the wire tap? Is this the best season of the show?


The mom and sister are supposed to be terrible. They’re unlikable on purpose.

you didn’t like the Richie storyline in S2?


most mobsters in the US are old geezers, capos, guys in the admin are 70+ years old. IRL Tony being a boss in his 40s is rare, as most guys don’t even Get made til they’re in their 40s. And the mob is a constant treachery of guys trying to get over on each other…the “brotherhood” stuff is a myth.

…but it’s Jersey, they make anybody and everyone over there
 

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The mom and sister are supposed to be terrible. They’re unlikable on purpose.

you didn’t like the Richie storyline in S2?


most mobsters in the US are old geezers, capos, guys in the admin are 70+ years old. IRL Tony being a boss in his 40s is rare, as most guys don’t even Get made til they’re in their 40s. And the mob is a constant treachery of guys trying to get over on each other…the “brotherhood” stuff is a myth.

…but it’s Jersey, they make anybody and everyone over there

I get they are terrible on purpose. But on most shows the terrible characters have a story, a reason to be there. The mom was just old and complained to everyone about everything. She had no purpose. No involvement in the 'family' business, just there at home/hospital and complained. The sister just comes in for episodes in season 2 and 3, and really served no purpose but to be in the way.

And Richie- that story was decent. He has a purpose, he was against the Sopranos from the outside. But he got killed, the sister leaves and thats it. Tony's big arch nemesis just killed by the sister in the house. Weak end to what could have been a big character.

Oh yeah, and what about the store owner who had a gambling problem? He is a big part with him owning money, and no payoff? Dude was on like 4-5 episodes, a big piece, ready to off himself, crying everywhere, everyone's bytch, and then.... nothing big.

Just overhyped, especially compared to The Wire, or numerous other shows
 
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I get they are terrible on purpose. But on most shows the terrible characters have a story, a reason to be there. The mom was just old and complained to everyone about everything. She had no purpose. No involvement in the 'family' business, just there at home/hospital and complained. The sister just comes in for episodes in season 2 and 3, and really served no purpose but to be in the way.

And Richie- that story was decent. He has a purpose, he was against the Sopranos from the outside. But he got killed, the sister leaves and thats it. Tony's big arch nemesis just killed by the sister in the house. Weak end to what could have been a big character.

Oh yeah, and what about the store owner who had a gambling problem? He is a big part with him owning money, and no payoff? Dude was on like 4-5 episodes, a big piece, ready to off himself, crying everywhere, everyone's bytch, and then.... nothing big.

Just overhyped, especially compared to The Wire, or numerous other shows

Tony even says something like “if you were born after all this feminism shyt Ma, you’d be the real gangster”…she manipulates tf out of junior all S1, green lights a hit on branden, Chris’ friend and manipulates junior into trying to hit Tony…then conveniently plays the Alzheimer’s card. She’s basically Junior’s unofficial consigliere S1 while he’s boss

“It’s all a big nothing”….don’t expect happiness” Major existentialism themes throughout the show…There’s never really has a cliffhangers by design, and consistently builds up hype just to have the reality be a let down (kinda like real life for most ppl, no?). … ”the fukkin regularness of life”

The sister killing Richie was great, totally out of left field and Tonys face of pleasant surprise coming in and seeing Richie dead is priceless.

if you’re expecting Tommy guns and shootouts, I’ll spoil it by telling you it never happens. It’s really not a mob show. It’s a show about the good ole days being over and using the mob to represent the deterioration of the American way of life. Add in the family aspects and psychology and everyone dealing with guilt and justifying criminality when it benefits them. Lots of layers to examine.

I came up watching both the The Sopranos and The wire back when they used to air on Sunday night together, and originally preferred the wire bc every piece of the puzzle matters and it was harder to get into the The Sopranos bc the episodes didn’t seem to lick up where the last one left off, a lot of one off/standalone episodes with storylines that go nowhere and single episode characters. But looking back as much I love both series, The Sopranos is my goat.

The Wire and The Sopranos are almost polar opposites other than both shows have violent criminal enterprises in them….the wire every single character and piece come together. The The Sopranos is Spread out and filled with ambiguity, most of the random characters don’t matter and come and go. The wire is much more story driven to examine how institutionalism breeds corruption and inefficiencies… where are the The Sopranos is Much more driven by its main characters and the crises they go through in life slowly realizing they’ll never change and their inability to not change will lead to their undoing.
 
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Tony even says something like “if you were born after all this feminism shyt Ma, you’d be the real gangster”…she manipulates tf out of junior all S1, green lights a hit on branden, Chris’ friend and manipulates junior into trying to hit Tony…then conveniently plays the Alzheimer’s card. She’s basically Junior’s unofficial consigliere S1 while he’s boss

“It’s all a big nothing”….don’t expect happiness” Major existentialism themes throughout the show…There’s never really has a cliffhangers by design, and consistently builds up hype just to have the reality be a let down (kinda like real life for most ppl, no?). … ”the fukkin regularness of life”

I came up watching both the The Sopranos and The wire and originally preferred the wire bc every piece of the puzzle matters and it was harder to get into the The Sopranos bc there’s a lot of one off episodes with storylines that go nowhere and 1 episode characters. But looking back as much I love both series, The Sopranos is my goat.

I respect the explanation and am glad the Sopranos struck you so well. Preciate the constructive back and forth.
 
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I respect the explanation and am glad the Sopranos struck you so well. Preciate the constructive back and forth.

had to edit my post some. And make no mistake I love the wire.

if you wanna see some hardcore shootout modern day mafia shyt I suggest Gomorrah on HBO max. There’s literally no love scenes and comedy. Just super dark and violent. One of my personal top 5 shows. S1 and S2 are epic.

it’s all in Italian with English subs. Excellent show. Do not watch the dubbed version
 

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First re-watch and it moved into my top 5. I appreciate this show more than I did before. :wow:

So many gems and good characters. The comedy is something I don’t remember. I don’t recall one bad ep. :ehh:

And like OP said, Gandolfini was such a great actor. :mjcry:

what else is in your top 5? No judgment jw
 
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