The Sopranos (Sensitive Gangsters)

[DredScott]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Tony was mad sensitive about not making Junior's comments about him never having the makings of a varsity athlete. Like that shyt hurt him down deep!!

I remember in Season 1 when they were playing Golf and

Junior: "Will you let the man tee off, you yap worse than six barbers. If you’d have shut up during that game against Mountain Lakes you wouldn’t have missed that fukking fly ball. I was embarrassed to face my friends.”

Tony:

nah, tony did take that criticism hard, because junior mentions it again in season 5 during his early dementia/alzheimer's stage and sets tony off and then tony dreams about it later that season in the infamous "test dream" episode in season 5, where he ends up in his old high school football team's locker room and his coach says something similar and it fukks tony up again and makes him flustered. those comments hit him hard and you could tell.

i always found that relationship dynamic that tony and junior to be very flawed yet intriguing and nearly as important as tony's relationship with christopher was in the scheme of the show.

check the following article for a decent write-up about the varsity athlete issue.

http://brokeboredandlazy.com/tv/sop...u-never-had-the-makings-of-a-varsity-athlete/

 

[blackzeus]

U can't really do much in that situation tho. What u gonna do? Go toe to toe with the most powerful mob boss in the city? Specially being a regular civilian, there's not much u could do. U ain't made of the same fabric.

U'd wind up in the trunk of a car real quick. Those dudes had killed people for a lot less. U might as well take the ass whooping and keep it moving. That's life man. Sometimes u gotta swallow ur pride and keep it moving. Specially if ur a civilian dealing with a mobster, ur gonna lose either way.

So you would swallow your pride and bend over in jail? There's gotta be some thing you're willing to die for. If you're willing to do anything to stay alive, you are not a man IMHO.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Im still shocked they did the shrink like that.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

So you would swallow your pride and bend over in jail? There's gotta be some thing you're willing to die for. If you're willing to do anything to stay alive, you are not a man IMHO.

OK tough guy. You must be hard. Putting it down on these internet streets. You rather die than take an ass whooping? You're losing either way in that situation.

A regular civilian is gonna take the ass whooping and keep it moving. I mean shoot, even a lot of gangsters would take the L and keep it moving.

Its not like he was about to get raped you're talking about a completely different scenario here

Even that swole, diesel Italian dude that was one of Tony's bodyguards had to take an ass whooping from Tony and swallow his pride.

 

[blackzeus]

OK tough guy. You must be hard. Putting it down on these internet streets. You rather die than take an ass whooping? You're losing either way in that situation.

A regular civilian is gonna take the ass whooping and keep it moving. I mean shoot, even a lot of gangsters would take the L and keep it moving.

Its not like he was about to get raped you're talking about a completely different scenario here

Even that swole, diesel Italian dude that was one of Tony's bodyguards had to take an ass whooping from Tony and swallow his pride.

No, he got at Tony and lost, and then they told him to fall back. Big difference. It's not about being tough, it's about being a man, I am assuming you are under 21, if you're willing to get spanked as a grown man, you would probably also be willing to get raped in order to continue living. I've been in a few potential life/death situations before, and by the grace of God I'm still here, but I would choose everytime to fight for my manhood and take the risk of dying than to live as a b*tch. One thing is someone calling you names, cheating you, some sh*t like that. Another thing is a direct physical attack. Once you let a man put hands on you without resistance, you should turn your d*ck in

 

[Roberto Dinero]

No, he got at Tony and lost, and then they told him to fall back. Big difference. It's not about being tough, it's about being a man, I am assuming you are under 21, if you're willing to get spanked as a grown man, you would probably also be willing to get raped in order to continue living. I've been in a few potential life/death situations before, and by the grace of God I'm still here, but I would choose everytime to fight for my manhood and take the risk of dying than to live as a b*tch. One thing is someone calling you names, cheating you, some sh*t like that. Another thing is a direct physical attack. Once you let a man put hands on you without resistance, you should turn your d*ck in

I'm 29. I'll be 30 this year. Taking an ass whipping doesn't make you any less of a man IMO. People get beaten up everyday. A civilian doesn't want any parts of that, I'm looking at it from his point of view not a street dude or a soldier.

And no, he didn't get at Tony. Tony started shyt with him for no reason so he could beat him up and prove that he was still strong and he was still the boss. The bodyguard wanted to fight back and didn't. So he took more or less the same L the other guy took. An even bigger L cause I know that hurt his pride more than the other guy's pride was hurt.

 

[blackzeus]

I'm 29. I'll be 30 this year. Taking an ass whipping doesn't make you any less of a man IMO. People get beaten up everyday. A civilian doesn't want any parts of that, I'm looking at it from his point of view not a street dude or a soldier.

And no, he didn't get at Tony. Tony started shyt with him for no reason so he could beat him up and prove that he was still strong and he was still the boss. The bodyguard wanted to fight back and didn't. So he took more or less the same L the other guy took. An even bigger L cause I know that hurt his pride more than the other guy's pride was hurt.

I really don't wanna go back and forth over something that isn't even real:

1) Losing a fight doesn't make you less of a man. Taking an ass whipping without resistance does. But again, I'm not you, you're not me, I don't expect you to ride with the philosophy I do

2) I meant when the bodyguard realized Tony was serious and was challenging him, he got at Tony, and Tony gave him a couple good punches according to my memory, and then the other guys told the bodyguard to let it go. He didn't go out like a b*tch.


Again breh, it's not about being tough, or being a gangster, it's about being a man. If you are willing to let another man dominate you without a fight, you are not a man. If you are willing to do and accept anything in order to live, you are not a man. We've all swallowed our pride over some bullsh*t at one point, I'm not talking about your boss cracking jokes about you at your job, I'm talking about a man physically attacking you in public. The first instance you let go because you got mouths to feed, but you never never NEVER let another man touch you without resistance. God bless breh.

 

[Roberto Dinero]

I really don't wanna go back and forth over something that isn't even real:

1) Losing a fight doesn't make you less of a man. Taking an ass whipping without resistance does. But again, I'm not you, you're not me, I don't expect you to ride with the philosophy I do

2) I meant when the bodyguard realized Tony was serious and was challenging him, he got at Tony, and Tony gave him a couple good punches according to my memory, and then the other guys told the bodyguard to let it go. He didn't go out like a b*tch.


Again breh, it's not about being tough, or being a gangster, it's about being a man. If you are willing to let another man dominate you without a fight, you are not a man. If you are willing to do and accept anything in order to live, you are not a man. We've all swallowed our pride over some bullsh*t at one point, I'm not talking about your boss cracking jokes about you at your job, I'm talking about a man physically attacking you in public. The first instance you let go because you got mouths to feed, but you never never NEVER let another man touch you without resistance. God bless breh.

Well, I guess that's ur pride getting the best of you.

And like I said, I'm looking at this whole thing from that particular guy's perspective. He was a middle aged, frail, Jewish lawyer. You really think he's gonna wanna even fight back to someone like Tony?

As for myself, I don't have that sense of pride. I would take the L and keep it moving. I understand standing up like a man for what you believe in but lose my life for a minor spanking, dealing with an evil doer and murderer? Not worth it.

As for the bodyguard, ur remembering it wrong. I know cause I'm a big Sopranos fan. Tony stepped to him then proceeded to whip him. He wanted to fight back and the others stopped him, so he didn't.

 

[blackzeus]

Well, I guess that's ur pride getting the best of you.

And like I said, I'm looking at this whole thing from that particular guy's perspective. He was a middle aged, frail, Jewish lawyer. You really think he's gonna wanna even fight back to someone like Tony?

As for myself, I don't have that sense of pride. I would take the L and keep it moving. I understand standing up like a man for what you believe in but lose my life for a minor spanking, dealing with an evil doer and murderer? Not worth it.

As for the bodyguard, ur remembering it wrong. I know cause I'm a big Sopranos fan. Tony stepped to him then proceeded to whip him. He wanted to fight back and the others stopped him, so he didn't.

Not fighting back?




You should work on being a better fan

 

[Roberto Dinero]

Not fighting back?




You should work on being a better fan

From the jump dude was like "Tony, I don't want none" on some

He tried to fight back a little and got rocked. And you can tell he only tried to save face. He didn't want no problems. But whatever, if that's how u get down, its cool. In my world, I got no shame in taking a beating and keeping it moving if it fits my big picture.

Also, although I'm a Sopranos fan, I don't watch it any more. I've seen it quite a lot of times already.

 

[Robbie3000]

I get what you are saying, but letting a man whip you with a belt like a child infront of your lady no less, is something I couldn't tolerate.

 

[Robbie3000]

Yea I think that actor that played Carmine Jr. was slept on. Dude was book stupid, but he was also pretty wise and level-headed. He always tried to steer away from violence and he tried to be fair to all parties in disputes.

"An ounce of gold is more valuable that a gallon of blood".

 

[Skip b]

Im still shocked they did the shrink like that.

Fukk did they do to her........


Fukk Dr. Melfi when Tony was trying to change his life after getting shot, she kept bringing up negative shyt time after time, almost pushing towards the negative Tony the Tony in which she was attracted to, and when Tony made his full turn she responded as saying back to business tony, with a smirk on her face...........Watch that season people, a lot of subtle shyt goes unnoticed.........................

 

[Food Mane]

fukkin Chris was the best.

"suckin a cock??"

Chris best line is when hesh's nephew gets jumped and says it was 2 guys in a Lexus.

Chris: chinks did this?

 

[Banned Account12]

Binge watching this almost finished with season 1