"The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation"

[An ashy lil fap hand]

round and round

 

[The God Poster]

It's some shyt to say that rap music teaches impressionable youth to become criminals and gangsters. Notice the people who spout that shyt never say anything about gangster movies so what's up, Dr. Dre Superthug is going to turn people gangster but The Godfather and Goodfellas and Scarface don't? shyt, half the time these gangster rappers invariably reference gangster movies in their lyrics

If you want to talk about the suppression of meaningful, revolutionary hip-hop music and the promotion of meaningless, hedonistic hip-hop music, that's something totally different and there's receipts to prove that that really happens. So that's definitely true. As for hip-hop causing people to become criminals, instead of socioeconomic conditions, lack of opportunity, and all that other shyt, that's just a white supremacist talking point.

To be fair movies are presented as fiction . Rappers for the most part tout authenticity which can def leave a younger person confused.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

Funny I was just thinking about dis. Actually, I can't stop thinking about dis. At first I dismissed it but now I'm not so sure. I think this may have happened but just not in the way it's written. This appears to be written based off of something else that was already written and the meeting placed in that context. Hope dat make sense.

But you have people sayin the meeting did happen. The music did change too. We used to attribute it to da rise of NWA and West Coast music but there has to be more to it. Every other movement we create gets infiltrated and destroyed so why wouldn't they do tha same wit Hip Hop? How did we go from brothas and sistas, to nikkaz and b!tches? They gave us crack, why wouldn't they give us music to promote it? How us could they feed the prison industrial complex?

 

[NoChillJones]

I read this when it was posted on SOHH like 7 or 8 years back.....I believe it 100%.....there is no reason not to believe this.

The state of the black race was worse off before hiphop
Violence in black neighborhoods was worse in the 60's
Blues and Jazz was already a culture of heathnism and savegery
The ultimate plan has always been to demonize hiphop because it was the unplanned tool that uplited the black race when they tried to take us with out crack cocaine and extreme poverty.
Hiphop Saved the black race in America.......it opened up the door of acceptance to whites, it opened up the dooor for real possibility with finanicail success and ownership. It finally gave our entire race a voice that was unable to be denied or ignored.

People who hate hiphop, often are disconnected from thier skin color and feel some sort of way about artist they see everyday that they can't realte to.

 

[NoChillJones]

nikkas still be sampling though

Commerical success and white people killed hiphop sir. Anytime you open up the door for others to intepret your art, you open up the door for dilution, wack imitation, and explotation for the dollar. Match with record labels going out of tehir way remove positivity from the genre and push only negative stereotypes...........and you have the current state of the genere. Weak washed up noise that barely constitutes as music. To be fair this has happened to every great genre of music. The pureness leaves once commericialism comes into play. Because they beagan millking it for every dollar they can get. It started with the movie Breaking

 

[PhonZhi]

The letter is probably fake but there probably are music execs invested in private prisons, thusly they're motivated to promote destructive type artists/music

Ain't no "probably" in it



Its a FACT that music execs invests in private prisons

 

[PhonZhi]

How about in the years after this meeting crime rates dropped rapidly.

It's some shyt to say that rap music teaches impressionable youth to become criminals and gangsters. Notice the people who spout that shyt never say anything about gangster movies so what's up, Dr. Dre Superthug is going to turn people gangster but The Godfather and Goodfellas and Scarface don't? shyt, half the time these gangster rappers invariably reference gangster movies in their lyrics

If you want to talk about the suppression of meaningful, revolutionary hip-hop music and the promotion of meaningless, hedonistic hip-hop music, that's something totally different and there's receipts to prove that that really happens. So that's definitely true. As for hip-hop causing people to become criminals, instead of socioeconomic conditions, lack of opportunity, and all that other shyt, that's just a white supremacist talking point.

What are you guys thoughts on the white supremacist tactic known as "media propaganda"?

What are you guys thoughts on the intentional demonization/criminalization of the black image?

 

[PhonZhi]

In 2017, if you don't believe in the intentional manipulation of hip-hop, you're a flat out idiot.

Hip-hop is being used to make living a destructive and irresponsible lifestyle seem "cool" mainly to young black impressionable minds.

For example, they need for blacks to continue thinking blowing your $$$ on stupid shyt and being financially irresponsible is cool.

This is why they flood the airwaves with music that promotes and glorifies extreme materialism:






Most mainstream hip-hop glorifies a mindset that the white man wants us to be in. This is why there is little to no positive, uplifting hip-hop in the mainstream. This is why they keep pushing rappers like 21 Savage, Bobby SchMURDA and Young Thug

Keep in mind who actually controls hip-hop and the major media outlets and the gist of that letter will make better sense. This music is being used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of black people to a worldwide audience.

That particular letter may not be real but where there's smoke there a fire and its not out the realm of being true.

The intentional manipulation of hip-hop, the most popular and influential artform on the planet is 100% real. If you're black its extremely important to know this because it's being used against the black mind and the black image

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Thier is no merit to this secret meeting....it was a business decision..

the bulk of the afrocentric golden era music was BEING PUSHED BY MAJOR LABELS...


PUBLIC ENEMY was on def jam /SONY

BRAND NUBIAN was on Elektra/ATLANTIC

X CLAN was on 4th and Broadway/MCA

And the most conterversial anti-white supremacy album of that era that was banned by MTV

THE DEVIL MADE ME DO IT by PARIS was released on tommy boy/WARNER BROS

and

let's not forget the female conscious side....Lauryn Hill's miseducation of lauryn hill was on COLUMBIA RECORDS

so we have ALL THE THREE MAJOR LABELS making $$$ off of CONSCIOUS MUSIC which renders this "conspiracy" fruitless....

because as Chuck D has said..."it didn't matter to these jews if we were pro black the bottom line is THEY WERE MAKING THE MONEY"

yall act like THEY FEARED OR TRIED TO SUPRESS CONSCIOUS MUSIC for a threat to it's power structure...

SORRY SOUNDS TRUTHFUL but it isn't...........THEY DIDNT FEAR PRO BLACK THEMES

they knew what the masses wanted and simply saw it as a product......

LET'S TAKE SOME ACCOUNTIBLITY AND REALIZE 85% OF OUR PEOPLE PARTICULARY THE HOES SOUGHT THIS SHALLOW DECADENT MUSIC...

i was at PE shows and BDP they never attracted a crowd of HOT WOMEN...or women in general...

i didn't really start seeing women at rap shows till 2 LIKE CREW and NWA came out...

is the RECORD COMPANIES to blame for that ..considering BOTH THESE ACTS came out without radio promotion and were INDEPENDENT....

SO THIS THEORY MAKES NO SENSE....

and the same players you see delivering us all this shallow music today is the same ones behind the conscious shyt of the past....LYOR COHEN...CARA LEWIS...JULIE GREENWALD...TODD MOSCOWITZ..CRAIG KALLMAN....TOMMY MOTTOLA AND DOUG MORRIS....

black is beautiful..but GREEN IS POWERFUL - Afrika Baby Bam (jungle brothers)

 

[Easy-E]

This, again.

Because de-funding social programs in the inner city, the prison prison boom, deregulation to subprime loans, etc. had nothing to do with it.

Face it; Rap music is marketed to white kids and white kids love action movies (sex, violence and opulence).

 

[ISO]

Most mainstream hip-hop glorifies a mindset that the white man wants us to be in. This is why there is little to no positive, uplifting hip-hop in the mainstream. This is why they keep pushing rappers like 21 Savage, Bobby SchMURDA and Young Thug

Keep in mind who actually controls hip-hop and the major media outlets and the gist of that letter will make better sense. This music is being used to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of black people to a worldwide audience.

That particular letter may not be real but where there's smoke there a fire and its not out the realm of being true.

The intentional manipulation of hip-hop, the most popular and influential artform on the planet is 100% real. If you're black its extremely important to know this because it's being used against the black mind and the black image

Here we go again. Dog, record labels do not give a fukk about any of that shyt, they are about making money. And this isn't like back in the day where they had talent agencies/shows literally handpicking artists and crafting their image in music. Bobby Shmurda did not get signed because record labels wanted to push an "image". Bobby Shmurda was signed because he had a huge viral hit on his hands that could lead to $. For every 21, Thug, Shmurda you have rappers like Drake, Kendrick Lamar, Chance The Rapper, J. Cole, etc. So what are you talking about. Artists are signed and pushed based on their buzz on the streets/internet first and foremost.

21, Shmurda, and Young Thug are here, because we pushed them to be here. Not labels.

 

[PhonZhi]

Here we go again. Dog, record labels do not give a fukk about any of that shyt, they are about making money. And this isn't like back in the day where they had talent agencies/shows literally handpicking artists and crafting their image in music. Bobby Shmurda did not get signed because record labels wanted to push an "image". Bobby Shmurda was signed because he had a huge viral hit on his hands that could lead to $. For every 21, Thug, Shmurda you have rappers like Drake, Kendrick Lamar, Chance The Rapper, J. Cole, etc. So what are you talking about. Artists are signed and pushed based on their buzz on the streets/internet first and foremost.

21, Shmurda, and Young Thug are here, because we pushed them to be here. Not labels.

You are wrong. Media propaganda is not a "conspiracy theory". Its a historic FACT.

You obviously have little to no knowledge of past history.

The intentional demonization of the black image has been going on since well before hip-hop ever existed:

Study Minstrel shows.

Look up the 1915 film "the birth of a nation" and study how that film portrayed blacks as savages and rapists.

Modern-day hip-hop is just an extension of this. Modern-day hip-hop has been used for the past 25 or so years to perpetuate the most negative stereotypes of black people. Modern-day hip-hop keeps the idea that blacks are dangerous, violent, irresponsible, hypersexual and inferior alive in the mainstream consciousness.

Its being used as an attack on the black image.

Study "media propaganda".

 

[PhonZhi]

There's a thread poppin right now in TLR about how some black business owners have to resort to pretending their company is white owned:

Black Business Owners Pretending their Businesses are White Owned

They have to do this because the image/reputation of blacks worldwide has been damned to hell. The idea of "blackness" is linked to inferiority and irresponsibility. Nobody wants to fukk with black owned businesses because the idea of blackness has been demonized.

Hip-hop plays a HUGE role in why the reputation of blacks is so fukked up.

Y'all keep thinking its "just entertainment" tho.

 

[Xecutioner]

It's some shyt to say that rap music teaches impressionable youth to become criminals and gangsters. Notice the people who spout that shyt never say anything about gangster movies so what's up, Dr. Dre Superthug is going to turn people gangster but The Godfather and Goodfellas and Scarface don't? shyt, half the time these gangster rappers invariably reference gangster movies in their lyrics

If you want to talk about the suppression of meaningful, revolutionary hip-hop music and the promotion of meaningless, hedonistic hip-hop music, that's something totally different and there's receipts to prove that that really happens. So that's definitely true. As for hip-hop causing people to become criminals, instead of socioeconomic conditions, lack of opportunity, and all that other shyt, that's just a white supremacist talking point.

"Scarface the movie did more than Scarface the rapper to me" Hov

 

[Victorious Secret]

I thought this shyt was a hoax.

It is