The Rwandan Genocide: 30 Years Later…

[2Quik4UHoes]

Here's some vids/stories on it....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_6954/index.html RNS yall need to read this
http://allafrica.com/view/resource/main/main/id/00081217.html
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/04/140402-rwanda-genocide-anniversary/

Considering what's going on in C.A.R., South Sudan, and Darfur today, do yall think the world has learned from this sad episode in human history?

 

[Crakface]

Best way to desribe this conflict are house nikkas vs the streets.

 

[Matt504]

Rome, the USA and the genocide

The events leading up to the genocide in April 1994 were, according to many experts, planned and co-ordinated by RC church leaders and politicians in conjunction with Hutu racial supremacists and United States Ambassador David Rawson. Rawson's previous post had been in Somalia, where he had spent millions of dollars providing US military weapons to the discredited Barre regime. That was followed by an ignominious US exit from Somalia as that country descended into chaos.

A key US role in the Rwandan massacres was to deny that genocide was taking place, since under international law that would have obliged the UN and the international community to intervene. Instead, they claimed there were merely ‘individual acts of genocide. They also actively frustrated UN attempts to send troops to Rwanda.

In a 1999 Guardian article, Chris McGreal wrote of the failure of the RC church to prevent the bloodshed: It failed because it claims four out of five Rwandans as adherents, yet it made little effort to influence the killers. That failure continues today through denial and evasion over its responsibility for the genocide.

http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=genocide

 

[Ruck]

create the word genocide after holocaust to prevent incidents like thatin the future. 50 years later in rwanda ain't no one to be seen. i love clinton, but this was his biggest fukk up during his tenure.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

create the word genocide after holocaust to prevent incidents like thatin the future. 50 years later in rwanda ain't no one to be seen. i love clinton, but this was his biggest fukk up during his tenure.

I'm not that big a fan of Clinton, he locked up a lot of non-violent drug offenders and ramped up the so called war on drugs. Anyways, to me its clear none of these major countries or leaders have learned anything. South Sudan may suffer a level of famine not seen in Africa since the 80s, C.A.R. is becoming more difficult to control, and silently Darfur remains under fire.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

Considering what's going on in C.A.R., South Sudan, and Darfur today, do yall think the world has learned from this sad episode in human history?

It's no longer the world's problem....they've turned their back. There's been major issues in Africa that are directly related to Europe and North America but they are no longer large issues due to the low potential of turnaround aka them nikkas aint worth it.

We got good amount of public attention through the media after the Civil Rights and the decolonization but now Africa is of no importance since Asia grew out of poverty and East/South Asian countries becoming the hub for technology and manufacturing.

I think there'll be a long time before the conflict in Sudan stops because there is little incentive for the outside world to help out. Also, the local East African economy is not growing at the pace that it should so people are forced to immigrate thus hindering stability in the region it leaves and the one it enters.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

It's no longer the world's problem....they've turned their back. There's been major issues in Africa that are directly related to Europe and North America but they are no longer large issues due to the low potential of turnaround aka them nikkas aint worth it.

We got good amount of public attention through the media after the Civil Rights and the decolonization but now Africa is of no importance since Asia grew out of poverty and East/South Asian countries becoming the hub for technology and manufacturing.

I think there'll be a long time before the conflict in Sudan stops because there is little incentive for the outside world to help out. Also, the local East African economy is not growing at the pace that it should so people are forced to immigrate thus hindering stability in the region it leaves and the one it enters.

The more I've thought about it breh, the more I've felt like stability in East Africa can only happen through some kind of federal union as a regional nation. I know that's way easier said than done, but the endless splintering and gripes over borders, humanitarian crises, refugee issues, rights of ethnicities/religion, and general disorganization and lack of control makes things less viable and federating as one nation under common goals may do wonders. The region could be one of the richest in the world given the resources and location but its still the issue of retaining the rights of the individual territories, redrawing borderlines, etc etc. That combined diaspora would bring a mind blowing level of investment and expertise to the table too. But like I said, this is all WAY easier said than done.

It's really fukked up tho, cuz imo the world won't be peaceful without some real equality and an evolution from the exploitative nature of our current economic model of choice. C.A.R. might be different though, all them French speaking European nations are crooked as fukk and the uranium and other resources in that country make me think they may not much mind the chaos since it means they can do to C.A.R. what's been done in Congo.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

The more I've thought about it breh, the more I've felt like stability in East Africa can only happen through some kind of federal union as a regional nation. I know that's way easier said than done, but the endless splintering and gripes over borders, humanitarian crises, refugee issues, rights of ethnicities/religion, and general disorganization and lack of control makes things less viable and federating as one nation under common goals may do wonders. The region could be one of the richest in the world given the resources and location but its still the issue of retaining the rights of the individual territories, redrawing borderlines, etc etc. That combined diaspora would bring a mind blowing level of investment and expertise to the table too. But like I said, this is all WAY easier said than done.

It's really fukked up tho, cuz imo the world won't be peaceful without some real equality and an evolution from the exploitative nature of our current economic model of choice. C.A.R. might be different though, all them French speaking European nations are crooked as fukk and the uranium and other resources in that country make me think they may not much mind the chaos since it means they can do to C.A.R. what's been done in Congo.

East Africa is probably one of the most historically important part of the world but it's treated like shyt. I would love for all the countries to unify and establish regional guidelines politically and economically since that will uplift all of us together but it won't be allowed to happen. Firstly, the local rebel/"tribal"/political group would never allow second oversight (after the western world). Secondly, there's too much rift between clans and tribes that hinders any talks and I don't know who will be the one to change the sentiments. Lastly, the western world don't want African unity of any kind hence Khadafi's exit and we don't have the power to unify and grow without them since several countries in the region are dependent on IMF and the World Bank.

The world will never be peaceful my nikka, that's something I come to realize. It might be more equal if a major revolution happen, which I definitely can see, but never peaceful. The first place these corporate thugs will run to is places like Latin America, South-East Asia, and Africa since they would afford to get protection from local militaries.

It's sad but our resources will continue to be exported outside the continent until countries within can afford to pay for extracting,processing, and selling the products.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

East Africa is probably one of the most historically important part of the world but it's treated like shyt. I would love for all the countries to unify and establish regional guidelines politically and economically since that will uplift all of us together but it won't be allowed to happen. Firstly, the local rebel/"tribal"/politically group would never allow second oversight (after the western world). Secondly, there's too much rift between clans and tribes that hinders any talks and I don't know who will be the one to change the sentiments. Lastly, the western world don't want African unity of any kind hence Khadafi's exit and we don't have the power to unify and grow without them since several countries in the region are dependent on IMF and the World Bank.

The world will never be peaceful my nikka, that's something I come to realize. It might be more equal if a major revolution happen, which I definitely can see, but never peaceful. The first place these corporate thugs will run to is places like Latin America, South-East Asia, and Africa since they would afford to get protection from local militaries.

It's sad but our resources will continue to be exported outside the continent until countries within can afford to pay for extracting,processing, and selling the products.

You're so right that's what makes it so sad. There are so many hands in the region its fukkin crazy. The interference is from all directions and distances so we may just be doomed to see the region continue to be taken advantage of. Kinda like how Congo is cursed with resources, East Africa and especially the Horn is cursed by its location. Honestly, short of an all out political revolution started in the diaspora that spreads to the region I don't think we'll see much change. Besides, pillaging Africa has been a tradition of the world for several centuries now. Hasn't stopped me from writing a manifesto about it in my spare time tho, I hold on to that dream of unity I'm tired of seeing our people fukked up we suppose to be on some China shyt minus the pollution. But my writing don't break them IMF/World Bank shackles nor does it guarantee the end of corruption, neo-colonialism, and crony capitalism.

It's strange to me too, cuz I find that it'd be more advantageous for the West to have a viable united East Africa to do business with plus it would greatly slow down the influx of refugees to their countries. But the the interests both on the local and global level are right now totally against such an idea. The Horn alone is extremely delicate it'd be a tough time to get Somalis, Eritreans, and Ethiopians on the same page(Djibouti would be easy it should just be split between the Afars and Somalis), but if you add places like the Sudans, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and that's way too many personal interests to see the advantage of unity and cooperation just Egypt alone would spazz the fukk out the Saudis would be pissed since their ambitions of making the Red Sea a lake of Arab influence would be dead. It's one of those ideas that makes total sense for the people but since this world is senseless it'll never happen.

smfh, I sincerely hope you're wrong but I deep down I know you not. Human beings still animals at the end of the day, its only so much our intelligence can do til the animal come out and act savage. smh, this whole post has been depressing especially after just seeing the footage of South Sudanese children and women damn near starving.....I need to go listen to some Gucci.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

You're so right that's what makes it so sad. There are so many hands in the region its fukkin crazy. The interference is from all directions and distances so we may just be doomed to see the region continue to be taken advantage of. Kinda like how Congo is cursed with resources, East Africa and especially the Horn is cursed by its location. Honestly, short of an all out political revolution started in the diaspora that spreads to the region I don't think we'll see much change. Besides, pillaging Africa has been a tradition of the world for several centuries now. Hasn't stopped me from writing a manifesto about it in my spare time tho, I hold on to that dream of unity I'm tired of seeing our people fukked up we suppose to be on some China shyt minus the pollution. But my writing don't break them IMF/World Bank shackles nor does it guarantee the end of corruption, neo-colonialism, and crony capitalism.

It's strange to me too, cuz I find that it'd be more advantageous for the West to have a viable united East Africa to do business with plus it would greatly slow down the influx of refugees to their countries. But the the interests both on the local and global level are right now totally against such an idea. The Horn alone is extremely delicate it'd be a tough time to get Somalis, Eritreans, and Ethiopians on the same page(Djibouti would be easy it should just be split between the Afars and Somalis), but if you add places like the Sudans, Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, and that's way too many personal interests to see the advantage of unity and cooperation just Egypt alone would spazz the fukk out the Saudis would be pissed since their ambitions of making the Red Sea a lake of Arab influence would be dead. It's one of those ideas that makes total sense for the people but since this world is senseless it'll never happen.

smfh, I sincerely hope you're wrong but I deep down I know you not. Human beings still animals at the end of the day, its only so much our intelligence can do til the animal come out and act savage. smh, this whole post has been depressing especially after just seeing the footage of South Sudanese children and women damn near starving.....I need to go listen to some Gucci.

This is basically the synopsis for why it wouldn't happen.

It's depressing to know but it empowers me, it makes me understand all the work that needs to be done!

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This is basically the synopsis for why it wouldn't happen.

It's depressing to know but it empowers me, it makes me understand all the work that needs to be done!

Yeah, we gotta push forward and hope for the best.

Back to this thread, here's a video version of one of the stories I posted about a UN Senegalese Captain that was saving lives during the genocide:

 

[Thoughts]

What will happen if Chiraq metastasizes.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Damn, BBC just showed the full version of that Captain Mbaye story....I can't stunt shyt had me dude was a man of tremendous honor and bravery. I don't know if any of us could of did what he did, amazing....

 

[Primordial]

The more I've thought about it breh, the more I've felt like stability in East Africa can only happen through some kind of federal union as a regional nation. I know that's way easier said than done, but the endless splintering and gripes over borders, humanitarian crises, refugee issues, rights of ethnicities/religion, and general disorganization and lack of control makes things less viable and federating as one nation under common goals may do wonders. The region could be one of the richest in the world given the resources and location but its still the issue of retaining the rights of the individual territories, redrawing borderlines, etc etc. That combined diaspora would bring a mind blowing level of investment and expertise to the table too. But like I said, this is all WAY easier said than done.

It's really fukked up tho, cuz imo the world won't be peaceful without some real equality and an evolution from the exploitative nature of our current economic model of choice. C.A.R. might be different though, all them French speaking European nations are crooked as fukk and the uranium and other resources in that country make me think they may not much mind the chaos since it means they can do to C.A.R. what's been done in Congo.

Exactly. I never understood how France, Belgium etc tend to get a pass for their colossal failure in West/Central Africa and the Caribbean.
The impact of their fukked up colonial and post-colonial policies have repeatedly derailed any type of progress countries like the Congo and Haiti

 

[newworldafro]

I just remember watching Nightline one night in the middle of this savagery..... and they showed one of the rivers there that was the color of blood........because it was blood...... ... never seen anything like that in my days on earth.... I read about savagery like that, but never "experienced" it as a contemporary, even though it was thousands of miles away...............

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