The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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yes and it has been ongoing from then ..

are you aware of what is going on in germany or are you just talking?

Issued on: 13/02/2022

"Germany loses patience with ex-chancellor's Russia lobbying
Former German chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's close friendship with President Vladimir Putin and lucrative business dealings with Russia have for years been reluctantly tolerated at home.

But as war clouds gather over Ukraine and allies question Germany's resolve, Schroeder is increasingly seen as potential liability to new chancellor and fellow Social Democrat Olaf Scholz, fuelling calls for a clean break with the pro-Kremlin lobbyist.

"Schroeder is a burden to Germany's foreign policy and to his old party," Der Spiegel weekly wrote. "He has clear goals. Not for his country, but for himself."

Schroeder's recent warning to Ukraine to stop its "sabre rattling" was met with widespread disbelief in Germany, even among longtime friends within the centre-left SPD party."


Germany loses patience with ex-chancellor's Russia lobbying

Ok breh. Here's something actually relevant:

From the Georgian invasion to the annexation of Crimea, the downing of MH-17 and the poisoning of Alexei Navalny, Germany has always found a way to forgive its friend to the east. As BASF’s then-chief executive, Eggert Voscherau, told the enthusiastic partygoers in 2008, peace can’t be achieved “through exclusion.”

The sentiment — Germany’s unofficial Russian policy ever since — helped blaze Vladimir Putin’s path into Ukraine, precipitating what many fear could be the collapse of Europe’s post-Cold War security architecture.

How Germany helped blaze Putin’s path into Ukraine

I don't know where you've been but Germany has long been called out as the major European power letting Russia slide or outright supporting them
 

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Ukraine shot down 5 Russian aircraft according to Al Jazeera. Russia claims Ukrainian air defenses are neutralized.

EDIT: per usual Al Jazeera has the best coverage.

So weird to see Ukraine citizens just walking around normally. And why are they just now in line at the ATM:dwillhuh:
 
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:picard:Breh....this is some hold your family and appreciate the time you have shyt, because we could be going through this at a blink of a eye.

Just imagine waking up and looking outside your window to see a aircraft and tanks cruising through like it's just Tuesday.

Crazy times we are living in:merchant:
 

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Happened in 14 Obama was out in 16

But Putin knows Obama is out at 16 no matter what. So like I said, he knew he was on his way out the door.

Why you think Putin waited until 2014 to do it? Why didn't he do it in 2012? Or 2010? Or 2008? Cause he knew if he did it then, he was going to have to deal with Obama administration for x amount of years, and he might have ended up having his ashes scattered over the same ocean bin laden did. So he waited to 2014...cause he knows elections are coming up in 2016...and obama is out no matter what...and obama was not going to start some ware with Russia and then turn it over to another president...
 
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But I don’t get it:patrice: Biden and others will sanction them severely:patrice: I’m guessing putin understands this?:patrice: He knows he gonna be hurt financially wise so why would he still do it:patrice:

My understanding is he

Doesn't want Ukraine joining Nato and minimize Western influence in the region

Wants to control the oil flow $$ and prices they receive coming in through Ukraine

He tried to pump fake but nobody jumped so now he feels he gotta shoot

:yeshrug:. That's what I got from it .. prayers up to the young people dying over politicians inability to govern effectively
 

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But Putin knows Obama is out at 16 no matter what. So like I said, he knew he was on his way out the door.

Why you think Putin waited until 2014 to do it? Why didn't he do it in 2012? Or 2010? Or 2008? Cause he knew if he did it then, he was going to have to deal with Obama administration for x amount of years, and he might have ended up having his ashes scattered over the same ocean bin laden did. So he waited to 2014...cause he knows elections are coming up in 2016...and obama is out no matter what...and obama was not going to start some ware with Russia and then turn it over to another president...
:usure:

And have war hawk Hilary to deal with



that logic ain’t cutting it
 
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so not a good idea unless you're sick in the head

Shyt would be devastating. Stocks crypto and gas would be the last thing on nikkas minds

it could very well happen in our lifetime. There's enough on the table where you can see the outline... hopefully it never happens..
 
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