The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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Why can't Russia protect it's interest along it's border ? Has anyone done a study and tallied up the number of deaths by the Pentagon in their 20 year war campaign
It's in US interest to stop the flow of drugs accross the southern border that are killing Americans and causing crime. Now imagine the US lauching cruise missiles into Mexico City to stop it. Would you think that an appropriate response?
 

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It's in US interest to stop the flow of drugs accross the southern border that are killing Americans and causing crime. Now imagine the US lauching cruise missiles into Mexico City to stop it. Would you think that an appropriate response?
I'll remind you of iraq , libya , Mogadishu , Nicaragua , yemen , Hawaii , puerto rico , Venezuela , Afghanistan & cuba . How many lives was lost on lies since you want to post some bs
 

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"Those who do not demand NATO's responsibility for war crimes in Yugoslavia have no moral right to talk about Ukraine"

Serbian Interior Minister Aleksandar Vulin
A Serbian should stfu about ANY talk of responsibility for war crimes considering the genocide of Muslisms his country pulled off in Bosnia just some 30years ago.
 

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When did I ever make excuses for those?
This goes back to about 20 years of lies , you cannot point guns at a country who can defend themselves . If we didn't have a demand for drugs we wouldn't have a drug issue . The ATF allowed all kinds of guns to go into mexico on some bs on tracing it fueling the violence .
 

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It's in US interest to stop the flow of drugs accross the southern border that are killing Americans and causing crime. Now imagine the US lauching cruise missiles into Mexico City to stop it. Would you think that an appropriate response?

It's a completely different geopolitical issue than what's happening on the Mexican-US border. The issue in the Ukraine-Russian border is a national security issue, a (potentially) existential issue and a quasi-ethnic issue. You are also presuming the US could not control the flow of drugs from Southern and Central America into the Southern US.
 

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It's a completely different geopolitical issue than what's happening on the Mexican-US border. The issue in the Ukraine-Russian border is a national security issue, a (potentially) existential issue and a quasi-ethnic issue. You are also presuming the US could not control the flow of drugs from Southern and Central America into the Southern US.
So you believe the invasion to be justified?
 

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So you believe the invasion to be justified?

I think the situation is too complex for me to say whether it was justified or not. What I will say is that most if not all geopolitical conflicts can be solved diplomatically.

Russia gave their terms which were expressly rejected by NATO with no concessions whatsoever. NATO continued to push aggressively into Europe up to the Russian border. As a military alliance, that could be a considered a threat to their national security. They have also had geostrategic plans to develop gas reserves that were discovered in Ukrainian territorial waters and use that to supply natural gas to Europe, cutting off Russian gas supply - hence the annexation of Crimea. So there's both an economic and national security element to it. There's also the cultural element which is the Westernization of Eastern Europe, thereby reducing Russia's sphere of influence in the region.

At the end of the day, it's the ordinary citizens that suffer.
 
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Turkey Controls access to the Mediterranean/Black Sea through Istanbul...

They have alot of bargaining power..but they need things with Russia to be cordial so shyt can be calm..especially in regards to the Bosphorus Straits.

This video goes into why Istanbul is a great location and why NATO warships ships can't enter the straits Bosphorus Straits.

 

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The locals working with the neo Nazis to ghost black people.



It's why I don't give a fukk about this conflict despite prices going up. None of them give a fukk about black people. Imagine this dude getting chased out of a police station to be fed to white supremacists. It was bushes status the moment black people were being discriminated against when trying to leave.
 

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Anyone notice how quiet the thread has got now that the Ukraine tall tales have been debunked and they are getting hammered?


Even notice all the news media now just goes to how Putin is a madman whose battling Parkinson’s or ish instead of talking about the Russian gains.
 
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