The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

[Chrishaune]

Look up your own denomination's history and where that belief came from breh. You're literally repeating stuff Southern Whites made up in the 1800s and 1900s based on barely literate preachers misunderstanding things they heard, guys who couldn't even read the Hebrew or Greek and who didn't know any of the theology of their own faith. Your claims weren't even part of Christian theology until recently. Why do you think Southern White people can just make up anything based on "their reading of the Bible" and you gonna soak it up?

The entire New Testament makes clear that the category of "God's people" had now been opened up to the entire world, not just Israel, and that the Gentiles are just as much God's people now as everyone else. That's emphasized over and over in Scripture and it's what the entire Church believed for over 1800 years after Jesus. The other branch got grafted on, the other child was adopted, and are fully God's children as much as anyone else.

But let's play devil's advocate for a moment and pretend that God still has a special need to be more concerned for Israel than for anyone else. Well, how did that go for Israel in the Old Testament? Why were they defeated by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Greeks, the Romans? Why was the temple smashed to the ground, why was the city allowed to rot and the land go fallow for hundreds of years after Babylonian conquest and thousands of years after the Romans burned it all down? If God destroyed Israel on multiple occasions for lack of obedience when they were actually a religious centered around their faith, why do you think he's going to give them some special protection today when they don't even follow any of the Old Testament laws, don't even sacrifice in the Temple, don't even appoint Levites and priests, and really don't care about following God's word at all?

You came to a whole lot of wrong conclusions without asking 1 question. You can believe what you want (I really don't care). The Word of God tells it exactly how it's going to happen.

That's all that matters. In the end we're all going to say God told us what would happen and it happened like He said. That's all there is. This doesn't have anything to do with a denomination.

 

[Mowgli]

Head on swivel.

Congress sitting down with Nazis and Jim Crow Joe shaking hands with a smile

 

[Mowgli]

TLR's right-wing Russian trolls literally said, "The mods unstickied the thread because they saw HL liberals coming in here trying to recruit us to fight for Ukraine and wanted to put an end to that bullshyt."

You're fighting for Nazis brother. This humiliation will be hard for you to live down when we look back. The Ukranian people have been bamboozled. Hard to even say that because the current president lost favor when he tried to stop the violence brought on by the coup. Ukraine has been activated into white nationalists and hiding behind the ethnicity of the president isn't going to stop that from being true.

Liberals may want to stop bucking to far to the left when they stage their coups.

 

[Grand Conde]

So Iran and Venezuela want to do the same thing Russia is doing. Make money to fight against the West.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nazis organized the coup. Nazis are aligning across states to ultimately form their own group/state/org as Russia and Europe fall and splinter. The United States is currently using them to control the Ukraine.

This is the dumbest shyt ever, you're literally propping up Russian propaganda AGAIN.

Wait until you find out that the current Ukrainian government didn't even come from the fukking coup, dumbass. Zelensky's government BEAT the 2014 coup government in a landslide in a fair election in 2019 with over 70% of the vote. His entire campaign was built off of explicitly rejecting right-wing nationalism and seeking peace between Ukrainians and Russians. The neo-Nazi parties were in that election too.....they didn't even win 2% of the vote and didn't get a single seat in government.

When Zelensky came to power Ukraine was the only nation outside Israel that had both a Jewish President and a Jewish Prime Minister. He tried to eliminate neo-nazis from the military and there was massive fighting. Even the "Ukraine has nazis" people write about that shyt - supposedly neo-nazi soldiers and Ukrainian soldiers even shot at each other and 4 people died. In the end he failed to purge them but he put them on the front lines instead so they'll eliminate themselves eventually.


But if you give a shyt about Nazis, you should ask why Russia has so many Nazis leading their forces in Ukraine for the last 8 years.


Russia's neo-Nazi paramilitary leaders

Dmitry Utkin, Russian Commander, confirmed neo-Nazi, friend of Putin, recipient of Russia's "Order of Courage", and founder and leader of Russia's paramilitary "Wagner Group", their lead mercenaries for every conflict where Putin doesn't want his legit soldiers getting their hands dirty. These are the guys doing most of the fighting in Africa and they've been fukking up shyt in Ukraine since 2014

Janas Petrovskis, the Wagner Group's lead trainer and another confirmed, proud neo-Nazi

Aleksander Voskanyan, another Wagner Group leader who was found using White Supremacist slogans on social media before he was killed in combat in Syria

Numerous other Wagner Group members push neo-Nazi ideology:

Russia even supports an American neo-nazi group called "The Base" that aims to overthrow the American, Canadian, and Australian governments but whose leader works out of Russia for his own safety

You're literally believing the propaganda of the same people who send these guys out to kill Black folk.

Russian Mercenaries Are Driving War Crimes in Africa, U.N. Says

Russian mercenaries implicated in torture and killing of civilians in Central African Republic - CNN



The Times: Putin has sent mercenaries to Kyiv led by an admirer of the Nazis to murder Zelenskyy and the Klitschko brothers - Romea.cz

https://www.respublica.lt/neonacizmas-rusijos-samdiniu-tarpe

 

[Tyrantus]

The leader of the Ukrainian Nazis discussions how big a role they play


Nazis organized the coup. Nazis are aligning across states to ultimately form their own group/state/org as Russia and Europe fall and splinter. The United States is currently using them to control the Ukraine.

Head on swivel.

Congress sitting down with Nazis and Jim Crow Joe shaking hands with a smile

You're fighting for Nazis brother. This humiliation will be hard for you to live down when we look back. The Ukranian people have been bamboozled. Hard to even say that because the current president lost favor when he tried to stop the violence brought on by the coup. Ukraine has been activated into white nationalists and hiding behind the ethnicity of the president isn't going to stop that from being true.

Liberals may want to stop bucking to far to the left when they stage their coups.

This is some of the most transparent and embarrassing attempts at propaganda I have ever seen. This whole "Russian Crusade against Nazis" is laughable in so many ways.

 

[Chrishaune]

You'll have to be a fool to think that's not what's going to be happen. I don't root for the West or any alliance. I see through the deception on both sides.

 

[Skooby]

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You came to a whole lot of wrong conclusions without asking 1 question. You can believe what you want (I really don't care). The Word of God tells it exactly how it's going to happen.

That's all that matters. In the end we're all going to say God told us what would happen and it happened like He said. That's all there is. This doesn't have anything to do with a denomination.

Again, literally NO ONE believed that's what the Word of God was saying for the first 1800 years after it was written. If you think that's what it says then you are misunderstanding the purpose of the Bible. Why would the prophets of the 1st century have written letters that would be totally irrelevant to their own people, totally irrelevant for all of church history, and then suddenly become meaningful for a single generation at a single moment of history thousands of years later?

It ain't like it's your fault because that's what you were taught. But it still ain't write. If you got a particular question about a particular passage then I can explain it to you from the Word and I'll give you sources too if you want that. But don't just go claiming prophecies to people without even quoting Scripture and then act like your claim by itself is all the authority to know the Truth.

 

[Skooby]

The whole entire situation is like a ACME rocket exploding in Putin's face:

• Ukraine with the shyts (soldiers really putting them beats on Russia despite Russia having more man power)
• Russia getting pushed back to the biblical times with everything from Macbooks to credit cards being frozen
  
• Majority of the world is not fukking with the country
• NATO coming through like gigantic Snoop in 95 invading New York
• Even Russians are not fukking with Putin

Dude should have just done a Kim Jong and talk shyt on wax but won't pop off in the streets.

None of this is true. Stop watching CNN.

 

[Chrishaune]

Again, literally NO ONE believed that's what the Word of God was saying for the first 1800 years after it was written. If you think that's what it says then you are misunderstanding the purpose of the Bible. Why would the prophets of the 1st century have written letters that would be totally irrelevant to their own people, totally irrelevant for all of church history, and then suddenly become meaningful for a single generation at a single moment of history thousands of years later?

It ain't like it's your fault because that's what you were taught. But it still ain't write. If you got a particular question about a particular passage then I can explain it to you from the Word and I'll give you sources too if you want that. But don't just go claiming prophecies to people without even quoting Scripture and then act like your claim by itself is all the authority to know the Truth.

Your problem is believing the lie God didn't say what He said. Just stop. You don't have a clue what you are even trying to argue with me about.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

None of this is true. Stop watching CNN.

I'm going by what's being posted in this thread and on some news outlets. I treat CNN like I treat professional wrestling, I just peep it for fukkery clips and keep it moving

 

[Mowgli]

This is some of the most transparent and embarrassing attempts at propaganda I have ever seen. This whole "Russian Crusade against Nazis" is laughable in so many ways.

You can say what it isn't but can't say what it is. It's transparent that Ukraine aren't heros. Should never let bush gas them.


A Ukraine national hero is a Nazi.

They had Nazis running their freedom coup.

They've been terrorizing their own civilians after their coup

Theyre forcing civilians to go to die.

I don't really care for Russia's reasons. Rooting out them Nazis will be a byproduct of their ultimate surrender and Russia will need a friend if the costs are more then they prepared for.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You're fighting for Nazis brother. This humiliation will be hard for you to live down when we look back. The Ukranian people have been bamboozled. Hard to even say that because the current president lost favor when he tried to stop the violence brought on by the coup. Ukraine has been activated into white nationalists and hiding behind the ethnicity of the president isn't going to stop that from being true.

Liberals may want to stop bucking to far to the left when they stage their coups.

Dumbass is trying to tie in ultranationalist right-wingers and left-wing liberals into the same narrative.

I haven't said jack shyt about fighting for Ukraine. I haven't said anything about why we should defend Ukraine or about them being some sort of great nation. The ONLY thing I have done in this thread is correct bullshyt Russian misinformation and said we should always oppose aggressive wars and imperialism by every big-ass country that goes around trying to take smaller ones.

Claim "Ukraine has been activated into white nationalists" when all the hard-right nationalists in the country couldn't even manage 2% of the vote combined in the last election.

You're a proud right-winger. You've made that clear for years. Your knowledge of world events comes solely off of social media. You've also made that clear for years. That combination has turned you into the fukking prime A-1 useful idiot misinformation target - you literally grab every bit of Russian disinformation you can get your hands on and then rush to post it on The Coli as quick as you can.

 

[Tyrantus]

But what about the facts.

The fact is you need to start doing something better with your time. Stick to trolling about grappling crocodiles.