The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

u mad son?

All Star
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
2,552
Reputation
748
Daps
8,259
Reppin
NULL
???
U.S Took over the majority of the middle east.

Not just 1 little country the size of a state in the .
U.s

And it took them days to establish control in iraq
And didn't need to send extra troops or break war laws to do it


Only thing that took YEARS was to build up their bases


Russia right now looks very weak
Thats because you flattened their entire country with bombs before you rolled in.

Russia are not retarded, they're not going to destroy an entire 1st world infrastructure right off the bat.

You mention not breaking war laws? Can you remind me how many innocent casualties there were during those years in iraq?

My man called Ukraine one little country :mjtf:

Its people like you that are the reason why there's a stereotype of Americans where they think they're at the centre of the earth and all of worlds politics should be compared to what you have going on there.
 

GodinDaFlesh

Banned
Supporter
Joined
Feb 4, 2015
Messages
12,846
Reputation
1,369
Daps
69,287
Reppin
The Godverse
Call me a coward, but why doesn't Ukraine just join Russia?:yeshrug: It's not like cats can tell the difference between the two. The US and the world isn't coming to save you (and they shouldn't because that will be the beginning of WW3 and possibly the end of the world as we know it). This is a case of "if you can't beat them, join them"
 
Last edited:

Mike Nasty

Superstar
Joined
Nov 19, 2016
Messages
12,423
Reputation
2,247
Daps
60,667
lol every page someone is pointing out that Ukraine has neo nazi's. It's not like anyone on this site is suiting up to head over and help defend Ukraine, maybe you guys should put your Russian propaganda to better use.
 
Last edited:

SleezyBigSlim

Banned
Joined
Sep 23, 2014
Messages
19,882
Reputation
-1,505
Daps
52,887
lol every page someone is pointing out that Ukraine has neo nazi's. It's like anyone on this site is suiting up to head over and help defend Ukraine, maybe you guys should put your Russian propaganda to better use.
c00n, if you were over there you'd be stuck they wouldn't let you cross the border because you're black. Ukraine's culture is against black people not just their neo nazi's
 

69 others

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
6,528
Reputation
736
Daps
24,144
Reppin
NULL
lol every page someone is pointing out that Ukraine has neo nazi's. It's like anyone on this site is suiting up to head over and help defend Ukraine, maybe you guys should put your Russian propaganda to better use.

:dwillhuh: even before this situation, many people have been sounding the alarm on Ukraine's far-right groups. The US and NATO are now arming them with high-grade weapons and even training. I'm not saying Ukrainians deserve this but anyone with sense should be asking what's going to come next after this war with these groups having weaponry and training. It's not the first time the US funded some group as a means to an end and they went on to do some foul shyt. Repeating the same thing would be stupid.

You as a black man is not concerned about groups that would want you dead being armed and trained? Also other right wing groups send people to Ukraine to train

Far-right Extremism as a Threat to Ukrainian Democracy
Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem



Let's not be concerned that these people are being armed to the teeth and provided with military training or even might control an entire country.
 
Last edited:

Jean toomer

Superstar
Joined
Oct 15, 2015
Messages
9,845
Reputation
1,165
Daps
29,202

CBalla

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Aug 7, 2019
Messages
4,928
Reputation
342
Daps
15,068
You idiots keep talking in circles about whatever stupid Venezuela shyt that I literally don’t give a fukk about and it’s clear you don’t know shyt. You dumb asses keep saying shyt like “ you’re dumb if you think Rubio has intel” when he’s appointed to one of the highest intel positions in the nation;

Gang of Eight (intelligence) - Wikipedia



The Gang of Eight is a colloquial term for a set of eight leaders within the United States Congress who are briefed on classified intelligence matters by the executive branch. Specifically, the Gang of Eight includes the leaders of each of the two parties from both the Senate and House of Representatives, and the chairs and ranking minority members of both the Senate Committee and House Committee for intelligence as set forth by 50 U.S.C. § 3093(c)(2).


Please read who is a member. None of this political bullshyt you idiots keep bringing up matters. I don’t give a fukk of Rubio told 10000 lies, his position and clearance gives him far more credible intel than you fukking idiots who have never touched a briefing in your life will ever have. Sorry I have to explain life to you. Please stop discussing who’s smart or not when its clear you don’t handle classified info or know shyt about how it’s handled.


This is basic shyt.
His clearance gives him credible intel and yet, he wont even call what happened January 6th, 2021 an insurrection and spread lies about our election.


Yea you truly are a clown :heh:

The same Rubio who to this day stands by Trump, the guy who wanted to weaken NATO and tried extorting Ukraine:dead:

As the saying goes, its easier to fool someone than to convince them they have been fooled :ehh:
 
Last edited:

Mike Nasty

Superstar
Joined
Nov 19, 2016
Messages
12,423
Reputation
2,247
Daps
60,667
c00n, if you were over there you'd be stuck they wouldn't let you cross the border because you're black. Ukraine's culture is against black people not just their neo nazi's
But I'm not there and never will be you dummy, and you act like the same thing can't be said about Russia or any other country in that region.
 

69 others

Superstar
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
6,528
Reputation
736
Daps
24,144
Reppin
NULL
But I'm not there and never will be you dummy, and you act like the same thing can't be said about Russia or any other country in that region.

According to every group that track this Ukraine have a problem with these groups. It's a potential far right nazi state in the making. These people are in government and the military. Also they are linking up with other right wing groups from the US and Europe. people go over there to train. Everyone should be concerned about this.
 

Mike Nasty

Superstar
Joined
Nov 19, 2016
Messages
12,423
Reputation
2,247
Daps
60,667
According to every group that track this Ukraine have a problem with these groups. It's a potential far right nazi state in the making. These people are in government and the military. Also they are linking up with other right wing groups from the US and Europe. people go over there to train. Everyone should be concerned about this.
Ok I'm concerned, now what?
 

loyola llothta

☭☭☭
Joined
Apr 17, 2014
Messages
35,064
Reputation
7,020
Daps
80,041
Reppin
BaBylon
Erdogan_800.jpg

28 February 2022
War in Ukraine Gives Turkey Opportunity to Reconcile with Washington?
By Paul Antonopoulos


With Kyiv’s refusal to implement the Minsk agreement, coupled with threats of restarting a nuclear program from a production facility in the city of Dnipro, Russia lost patience with protracted negotiations that did not lead to a resolution on Ukraine’s NATO membership or resolve the situation in Donbass after eight years. Moscow then took the drastic step of pre-emptively striking Ukraine’s military capabilities to ensure the security of Russia and Donbass. Such an action could open the way for Turkey to reconcile with Washington after estrangement following Joe Biden’s ascendency to the White House.


Russian strikes reportedly destroyed Ukraine’s fleet of Bayraktar drones, something that will surely anger the Turkish military industrial complex and war hawks in Ankara.

As recently as February 3, Ankara and Kyiv agreed to co-produce the Turkish-made drone at a production site in Ukraine. Ukrainian Defense Minister Olesii Reznikov told reporters in Kyiv at the time that the coproduction compound would also include a training center where Ukrainian pilots would be trained. This agreement comes as in September last year, the Ukrainian government announced that it was planning to buy 24 more Turkish drones.

Reznikov said that the coproduced drones would be dubbed the Turkish-Ukrainian Bayraktar. However, it appears that hopes for the Turkish-Ukrainian Bayraktar were dashed even before they could be mass produced as Russian forces allegedly destroyed the production facility in Ukraine.

It is recalled that the distribution of Bayraktar drones to Russia’s borders were welcomed by the US and it was naively expected that it would be a gamechanger or tip the balance of power. In one instance, Senior Hudson Institution fellow Michael Doran audaciously tweeted in May 2021 that: “Turkish drones are slowly beginning to surround Russia. Ukraine and Poland to the west, Turkey and Azerbaijan to the south and possibly Kazakhstan to the east. That’s how you contain Russia.”

The prevailing idea was that because of the success of Bayraktar drones against impoverished militias from Ethiopia or a country like Armenia, whose population is four times smaller then Moscow’s alone, it would be replicated against the Russian military, which is ranked second out of the 140 countries considered in the annual Global Fire Power review. Russia achieved a “perfect score” of 0.0000 according to their 2022 index.

According to Dr Spyros Plakoudas, a professor on security studies at Rabdan Academy, Turkish-Ukrainian drones “were destroyed on the ground most likely. The Russian military forces targeted not only the bases of the Bayraktar but also the factory of Motor Sich (supplier of the engines for Bayraktar and Akinji UAVs).”

Effectively the Russian military destroyed in a single night the Turkish-Ukrainian coproduction that was many years in the making. For now, it is likely that Ankara will remain silent on the destruction of its coproduction with Ukraine, including the drones, as the Bayraktar failure to defend Ukraine damages the reputation of Turkey’s military industrial complex. It is reminded that this author received a seize and desist order or face a Turkish court for just merely publishing images of destroyed Turkish drones in Libya.

None-the-less, Ukraine is still pinning its hopes on Turkey to reverse Russia’s operation. Ukraine’s Ambassador to Ankara Vasyl Bodnar personally relayed to the Turkish Foreign Ministry the request to close “the Dardanelles and Bosporus for Russian ships.”

According to the 1936 Montreux Convention, Turkey has control of the Dardanelles and Bosporus straits leading from the Mediterranean to the Black Sea. The Montreux Convention allows Black Sea states unlimited access to the Black Sea but imposes strict limitations on naval vessels from other states. Restricting Russian warships will inevitably lead to a major crisis as Moscow will certainly not tolerate being locked in the Black Sea and its Mediterranean fleet being isolated.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan hypocritically described Russia’s operation “contrary to international law” and a “heavy blow to the peace, tranquillity and stability of the region.” Ankara justifies its occupation of northern Cyprus and Syria for lesser pretexts, and it could be assumed that if Greece or Syria were to state its goal of acquiring nuclear weapons, Turkey’s response would be just as proportionate as Moscow’s.

Given Turkey’s isolation from the West, Ankara could use the war in Ukraine as an opportunity to reconcile with the US. The Turkish economy is under huge strain, something that has plummeted Erdoğan’s popularity, and although Turkey is unlikely to close the Straits to Russian ships, using this as a threat could be the first step in reconciliation with Washington.

It is not forgotten that Ankara continues to make fake allegations of Russia’s persecution of Crimean Tartars, and over the course of the war, we could see Turkey advocating for Turkic Tartars in Ukraine as another way to pressure Moscow.

Although Turkey has fostered areas of close cooperation with Russia, such as building nuclear plants and the S-400 deal, Moscow and Ankara are not strategic allies.

However, Ukraine and Turkey certainly are strategic allies, and if Ankara is given an opportunity to reconcile with the West by strongly supporting Kyiv against Moscow, then it may certainly take it.

link:
War in Ukraine gives Turkey opportunity to reconcile with Washington
 
Top